Protest the Juntas!… All of them, ours too! [UPDATED] 26 September 2007
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Big Box Blogs, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, The Battle for New Orleans, Viva La Revolucion!, WAR!.trackback
A Buddhist monk speaks to the crowd of supporters as they gather in downtown Yangon. Myanmar moved Wednesday to crush the mass rallies that have erupted nationwide against the military regime, as security forces fired tear gas and warning shots, and beat protesters in the streets. [AFP]
Buddhist monks marching in protest in Yangon in the strongest show of dissent against the ruling generals in nearly two decades, on 24 September. [AFP/MizzimaNews/File]
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From the BBC:
“Monks demonstration watched by armed soldiers.” Photo: Tin
Burmese riot police attack monks
Several thousand Burmese monks and other protesters have been marching in Rangoon despite a bloody crackdown by police. One death is reported.
Police beat and arrested demonstrators at the revered Shwedagon Pagoda, including up to 100 monks, on the ninth day of unrest against military rule.
One march started for the city centre while another headed for the home of opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi.
Security forces have reportedly ringed six key monasteries.
One unidentified person was shot dead and five received gunshot injuries, Rangoon hospital sources told Reuters news agency. [snip]
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Supporters of the Buddhist monks march down a street in downtown Yangon. [AFP]
Politician U Win Naing (L), comedian Zarganar (2nd L) and actor Kyaw Tun (2nd R) offering food and water to monks during a protest in Yangon, on 24 September, in the latest and strongest show of dissent against the ruling generals in nearly two decades.
Myanmar’s most famous comedian Zaganar, who had thrown his support behind Buddhist monks leading anti-government protests, was arrested at his home during the night, according to a friend.[AFP/MandalayGazette/File]
Filipino protesters hold burning incense as they display pictures of Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi during a rally Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2007 in front of the building housing Myanmar embassy in Manila’s financial district of Makati. The protesters staged the rally in solidarity to the ongoing protests in Myanmar against the ruling military junta. [AP Photo/Pat Roque]
In this file photo, a Myanmar Buddhist monk takes video footage at the famous Shwedagon Pagoda in Yangon. Myanmar’s swelling protests are in the global spotlight with the help of hi-tech gadgets in the era of YouTube — a stark contrast to the 1988 uprising in the pre-Internet age. [AFP/File/Saeed Khan]
News.Yahoo full coverage of Myanmar protest…
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UPDATED, 11:41 am – hot, dry and dusty again in San Francisco
someone just popped me this… 😉
Please, Democwaps, FUCK US HARDER! AND MAKE US PAY FOR IT!!!
Early Money
Kos makes the case for early money. I won’t tell you who to donate to right now, but am instead making the case for donating “now” rather than later.
Judging from past experience, as we get closer and closer to election day ’08 donations from readers will keep increasing. It’d much much much better if everyone sat down and figured out how much money they expected to donate to congressional candidates over the cycle and then figured out how to give as much of it as early possible.
-Atrios 13:14
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Sorry to be blunt, but the only word for it is, DEMMING … rushing madly for the fall from the cliff. Heading straight for the deep dark water with the strong undertow…
Also this… I have to say 8 years ago I had some hope for Krugman. Too often a party cheerleader. Too often a party mouthpiece.
Blanco could give a good Cajun, Baton Rouge Democratic machine shit about the Jena 6.
A Democrat. And Nagin, that former Republican now a Democrat, rushed to be at Jesse’s side.
USELESS… Demmings.
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Here is Margaret Kimberley of BAR on Jena 6:
If sitting under a tree is the last symbol of white supremacy in a state that fought tooth and nail to maintain it, then challenging that supremacist ideology is dangerous indeed. Were it not for concerned parents and other supporters who fought for them, the Jena Six would have disappeared namelessly into the American prison system like so many millions of other young black men.
“A movement that doesn’t produce a backlash isn’t much of a movement at all.”
After a successful first step, there is now talk of “backlash” in Jena. A movement that doesn’t produce a backlash isn’t much of a movement at all. It isn’t surprising that a neo-Nazi website openly threatened the lives of the Jena Six or that rednecks attempt to provoke violence by tying nooses onto their pickup trucks.
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Also from BAR, Glen Ford on Jena:
I am absolutely certain that profound, near-universal Black frustration at the abject failure of Black misleadership to respond effectively to the Katrina catastrophe played a central role in response to the plight of the Jena Six – an outpouring of pent-up pain from a wound much more recent than those evoked by nooses hung on a tree. At a gut level, Katrina forced African Americans to face the fact that the established Black institutions were not just ineffectual, but purposely so. Therefore Black folks, especially the youth, moved on their own, rather than appeal to the deaf ears of those who have refused to move for decades.
Power brokers will never permit Power to the People. They have no interest in justice – only in their own material interests, and must be kept out of the room when conspiracies for liberation are hatched. They are the oppressors’ first line of defense; they will kill the nascent new Movement in its crib, if given the chance. Organize around them, not with them.
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Marisacat 
oh those wacky Dems… one vote short for the SChip…
La Nan is “hoping and praying” for a big bi partisan vote tonight to send a message to W.
Give it up girlie.
Police have attacked the protesters in Rangoon, and they have apparently fired live ammo:
Don’t know if anyone’s seen this, but there’s a very good article about Jack Kerouac in this week’s New Yorker. And via Josh Marshall, it seems that Spanish newspaper El Pais is publishing leaked transcripts of early 2003 conversations between Bush and then Spanish PM Aznar which prove that war with Iraq was a done deal, and our efforts to find a diplomatic solution were a charade.
At the risk of being a thread hog, I had to post this, which is from Salon.com’s War Room:
As the squib’s heading states, that’s “[a] non-di-nahy-uhl di-nahy-uhl” from Perino. Maybe Bush’s post-presidential career will include a stint as a pitchman for Hooked On Phonics.
More Myanmar/Burma links via
Blood and Treasure
Interestingly, the BBC news has reverted to calling it Burma, which takes me back to the endless analysis of Orwell and the impact of colonial Burma on his writings we had to do at school
So Bush is cultivating his “legacy” by pretending he gives a fuck about freedom in Myannmar. Ho hum.
Mcat, how could you have banned my favoritist poster ever on this board while my back was turned ? (Snif !) I was trying so hard to make him notice me. It’s so unfair !!
And no, we gets no room service. Have to go out for our three hard boiled eggs. 😉 But there’s some terrific deli in this town, much better than out West. The Steeler mania gets on my nerves, though. Just one more reason to fight Major League Anything in Portland with all my might once I get home again. Frankly I’ve been perversely mesmerized by the cable sports shows that seem to run all the time. They’re like the ultimate in original meta, or soap operas and fashion shows for obstensibly het guys.
We were at a friendly dive yesterday with a bunch of mr_xeno’s old buddies. I was nursing my 3rd rum fizz when somebody tried to start a discussion of the DP horse race. Some sixtyish ex-Marine and I both concurred that the whole lot in both parties could be put on a plane and plunged to the bottom of the sea next week and we’d both cheer. For that and nothing else.
Make of that what you will.
The MSM has always been susceptible to broadcasting and printing government propaganda (that is when it wasn’t doing it intentionally), but one could still be confident that not everything one saw, heard, or read was calculated mendacity. That’s no longer the case, as the following exchange from the once more or less reliable CBS News demonstrates:
That’s from the network that used to be home to William L. Shirer, George Polk, Edward R. Murrow, and many others who are doubtless spinning in their graves due to what’s become of the organization they used to work for.
I guess we should count ourselves lucky that Pelley didn’t ask the Iranian President “Are you Satan incarnate, or merely one of his lesser assistants?”
If Pelley had interviewed Hitler, the latter might have come off as a thoughtful, reasonable individual who intended no one any harm, and wanted simply to look out for the best interests of his country.
wapo on the most recent blackwater incident:
“This is a nightmare,” said a senior U.S. military official. “We had guys who saw the aftermath, and it was very bad. This is going to hurt us badly. It may be worse than Abu Ghraib, and it comes at a time when we’re trying to have an impact for the long term.”
http://tinyurl.com/2q7ry2
What a joke Bush is! They probably do have to spell things phonetically for him.
Those photos are impressive. One way the Internet has worked.
JJB #3 – I’m sure it was a done deal. They ignored everything that could have helped avoid the war. It was clear early on that they were determined to invade. Nice to have confirmation although it appears that no matter how many lies are uncovered, it does not matter. There is no one to hold them accountable.
The Bushistas and Cheneyists committed treason–a “high crime” as defined by the Constitution–when they deliberately lied to Congress and manufactured intelligence information to lead the country to war against Iraq.
Clearly, Bush, Cheney, Rice, and many other officials in the executive branch have committed impeachable offences. The Democratically-controlled Congress refuses to impeach these officials, which is clearly THEIR duty under the Constitution.
The Democrats won’t do it. There is no accountability. This is a one-party state. The only way to restore balance is to start a second political party.
First step is to starve the Democrats of oxygen. The Democrats are not only unhelpful, but a hindrance to political progress because they give the appearance of opposition without the substance of opposition. So long as the Democrats are “in power”, they can frustrate true progress towards a republican (small “r”) government in which there is separation of powers and genuine checks and balances.
Not one more penny for the Democratic Party. Not one more vote for the Democrats at the national level. Run candidates against them in the general election (as Sheehan is doing against Pelosi). Fight them at every turn until they either change or are brought down.
You cannot work inside the Democratic Party for change. It’s been tried, and everybody who got inside, stayed inside and made themselves comfortable.
You have to fight from the outside, give no quarter, and ask for none.
Me? I’m sending Sheehan money for her run against Pelosi. I know Sheehan won’t “win”, but I want Pelosi to emerge bloodied and shaken (figuratively speaking…don’t want to be accused of being Ek Hornbeck’s slightly saner cousin).
SB,
Yes, I felt it was a done deal all along. I remember some anonymous BushCo. official saying in late summer or early fall of 2002 that they were going to make a number of demands on Saddam and “wouldn’t take ‘yes’ for an answer,” signifying that the entire route of going to the UN and having weapons inspectors search for WMDs or chemical/biological weapons was all for show. I suppose what makes this important is that for the first time we have Bush himself saying it to one of the stooges who went along for the ride.
Jury Hangs In Trial of Alleged Environmental “Terrorist.”
Via PDX Indymedia
Studs St. Shadow:
“…Not one more penny for the Democratic Party. Not one more vote for the Democrats at the national level. Run candidates against them in the general election (as Sheehan is doing against Pelosi). Fight them at every turn until they either change or are brought down…
8)
Will you be my valentine ? 😉
JJB and SB:
The “fix” was also in for the attack on Afghanistan BEFORE 9/11. 9/11 was the pretence. I won’t get into whether or not 9/11 was a staged event or just an opportunity that the Cheneyists seized, because that leads into a very convoluted discussion that can’t ever be resolved (some congressional committee might investigate and show what “really happened” in the year 2050, but I’m not quite that patient).
Let us consult one of the royal transcriptionists for the solution to the riddle of “What Did the Decider Decide and When Did He Decide It?”
WOODWARD (page 26): The next afternoon, Sunday, September 16, [2001,] Bush told Rice that the first target of the war on terrorism was going to be Afghanistan. “We won’t do Iraq now,” the president said, “we’re putting Iraq off. But eventually we’ll have to return to that question.”
–from “Plan Of Attack”, by Bob “I used to be a real journalist!” Woodward
So we definitely know that Bush decided five days after 9/11 to attack Afghanistan.
But what about before 9/11?
U.S. Policy Towards Taliban Influenced by Oil – Authors
by Julio Godoy
PARIS – Under the influence of U.S. oil companies, the government of George W. Bush initially blocked U.S. secret service investigations on terrorism, while it bargained with the Taliban the delivery of Osama bin Laden in exchange for political recognition and economic aid, two French intelligence analysts claim.
In the book ”Bin Laden, la verite interdite” (”Bin Laden, the forbidden truth”), that appeared in Paris on Wednesday, the authors, Jean-Charles Brisard and Guillaume Dasquie, reveal that the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s deputy director John O’Neill resigned in July in protest over the obstruction.
Brisard claim O’Neill told them that ”the main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were U.S. Oil corporate interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it”.
The two claim the U.S. government’s main objective in Afghanistan was to consolidate the position of the Taliban regime to obtain access to the oil and gas reserves in Central Asia.
They affirm that until August, the U.S. government saw the Taliban regime ”as a source of stability in Central Asia that would enable the construction of an oil pipeline across Central Asia”, from the rich oilfields in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean.
Until now, says the book, ”the oil and gas reserves of Central Asia have been controlled by Russia. The Bush government wanted to change all that”.
But, confronted with Taliban’s refusal to accept U.S. conditions, ”this rationale of energy security changed into a military one”, the authors claim.
”At one moment during the negotiations, the U.S. representatives told the Taliban, ‘either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs’,” Brisard said in an interview in Paris.
According to the book, the government of Bush began to negotiate with the Taliban immediately after coming into power in February. U.S. and Taliban diplomatic representatives met several times in Washington, Berlin and Islamabad.
To polish their image in the United States, the Taliban even employed a U.S. expert on public relations, Laila Helms. The authors claim that Helms is also an expert in the works of U.S. Secret services, for her uncle, Richard Helms, is a former director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
The last meeting between U.S. And Taliban representatives took place in August, five weeks before the attacks on New York and Washington, the analysts maintain.
On that occasion, Christina Rocca, in charge of Central Asian affairs for the U.S. Government, met the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan in Islamabad.
http://tinyurl.com/17a
Arthur Silber has a new piece up, worth reading, as always:
JJB #9 – this isn’t the first evidence we’ve gotten that the county was lied into war. As I picked up enough information in 2000 to warn people that a Bush win would mean another war with Iraq, it was out there early. Paul O’Neill disclosed that from early 2001 they were officially looking at Iraq. After 9/11 Rummy was studying Iraq instead of Afghan for bombing sites. Downing St. Memo. 2002 SOTU “axis of evil,” 2003 SOTU “yellowcake.” Anyone that couldn’t see that the WH was putting on a massive propaganda campaign to get their war on beginning in 8/02 and officially launched in 9/02 doesn’t have the skills of a ten year old to evaluate advertising.
JJB
Great article in el Pais. Just the First graf contains
Four weeks before the invasion, Bush maintained his public stance vis-a-vis Saddam: Disarm or there will be war. Privately, Bush admitted that war was inevitable. During a long private conversation with the then president Aznar, which took place Saturday Feb 22 2003, in the Crawford Texas ranch, Bush made it clear that the time had come to get rid of Saddam “There are two weeks left. In two weeks we will be ready militarily. We will be in Baghdad by the end of March”, he told Aznar.
Marie,
Yes, I know that. However, if there’s actually another on-the-record instance of Bush freely admitting this, I’m unaware of it.
Question: Is everyone assuming that it was OK for the US to bomb Afghanistan because the Taliban shielded Osama? I have problems with that assumption, if that’s the case, for these reasons:
1. Osama is NOT wanted for the crime known as “9/11”. The FBI does not list that as one of the crimes for which they seek to bring him to justice, nor does Interpol.
2. Even if Osama wrote a book entitled, “How I Planned And Implemented 9/11 For Dummies” and mailed it to the FBI, was bombing the villages where thousands of innocent Afghanis live the best way to pursue Osama and his followers? Or would a Special Ops insertion into Afghanistan been a better choice?
It’s quite clear that the “War On Terror” is only a pretence for invading Afghanistan and Iraq. The real reasons are grasping the oil of Central Asia and the Arabian Peninsula, and enriching the private companies who supply the US military with services and materiel.
Going after the wrongful invasion and occupation of Iraq is only part of the equation. We need to look at Afghanistan just as hard, if not harder, because it is the original crime.
By Robert Parry
April 8, 2003
In the latest sign of a troubled American democracy, a large majority of U.S. citizens now say they wouldn’t mind if no weapons of mass destruction are found in Iraq, though it was George W. Bush’s chief rationale for war. Americans also don’t seem to mind that Bush appears to have deceived them for months when he claimed he hadn’t made up his mind about invading Iraq.
As he marched the nation to war, Bush presented himself as a Christian man of peace who saw war only as a last resort. But in a remarkable though little noted disclosure, Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush outlined his real thinking to three U.S. senators, “Fuck Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.”
Time actually didn’t report the quote exactly that way. Apparently not to offend readers who admire Bush’s moral clarity, Time printed the quote as “F— Saddam. We’re taking him out.”
Bush offered his pithy judgment after sticking his head in the door of a White House meeting between National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and three senators who had been discussing strategies for dealing with Iraq through the United Nations. The senators laughed uncomfortably at Bush’s remark, Time reported. [Time story posted March 23, 2003]
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2835.htm
“Oderint dum metuant”–Caligula (Roman Emperor).
Translation: “Let them hate so long as they fear.”
It’s the new motto of the United States.
But fear does not last forever. Sooner or later, people become so desperate, so past tired of being afraid, that they lose their fear. And then all they have left is an all-consuming hatred. That’s when you end up with people strapping bombs to their bodies and using their own flesh and bone to deliver death to their enemies, even though it means their own immolation.
No, no, no, Shadow. We bombed Afghanistan to Saves The Wimmens. Get it right, willya’ ?
Oh right *smacks head* We got to rescue the wimmin ‘n chillen. Won’t somebody please think of the children?
So I assume when I go to Kabul for my holiday next summer, I’ll see women walking around in miniskirts, chatting on their mobiles as they go to their highly-paid jobs as stockbrokers and bond traders.
As for the children–well, let’s hope they all found employment. Because Americans like to buy toys made for children, by children.
Shadowthief #16 – realized as soon as I hit the send button that my comment on Rummy could easily be misinterpreted. I totally opposed the bombing/war in Afghanistan. Rather stupid response towards a country that was hosting OBL who may or may not have had much to do with 9/11. The USSR and US destroyed that country decades ago, leaving them with the non-choice of Nothern Alliance v. Taliban. Not too different from Iran: Shah v. Ayatollah. Of course, can’t really criticize the people of those countries when we in the US only get the non-choice of GOP v. DEM.
From the moment Bush addressed the UN in September 2002 [which I was outside protesting with about 300 people 1/3 of whom were Larouche cultists] I knew it was a done deal. It was just a matter of timing.
No, no, no, Shadow. We bombed Afghanistan to Saves The Wimmens. Get it right, willya’ ?
That’s why we’re bombing Saudi Arabia & the Vatican right now too right? er…
Lucid, you know the world is fucked up when Lyndon LaRouche turns out to have been a prophet of sorts.
Actually, the planning to get rid of Saddam came as soon as GW1 got wrapped up. A number of people were very unhappy with leaving Saddam in power, and Clinton’s eight year bombing campaign/economic strangulation of Iraq did not mollify them.
ST – same oddly delusional feeling I had when Buchanan supported Seattle ’99…
Well – to be fair, we’ve had an imperialist stance towards the middle east since WWII [maybe even slightly before]. We enabled Wahabbism to get its foothold in Saudi Arabia to help the elites keep the population docile & uneducated. We all know what we did to Iran in the ’50’s, and on and on. The Clinton’s weren’t as brazen as the current crop, they just played the typical democratic role as the kinder, gentler face of the imperialist shaft. However, now with the excuse of international terrorism [and the backstory of peak oil], I have no doubt that hilarious will be just as bloody as George.
There are people in danger in Jena, Louisiana from terr’ists.
Any B-52s been despatched?
Oh no, wait, it’s the BROWN terr’ists what gets bombed *smacks head*.
What is it with me being at work & ‘Supper’s Ready’ by Genesis [the P. Gabriel version] going through my head? Sometimes for hours?
Oops – Clinton’s conned again?
Kos is still fixated on Move On while the congress is piling on Iran legislation.
Just let several out of moderation…
several from Shadowthief…
couple each from JJB,
Marie and
ms xeno…
also a couple from Lucid…
they are all thru between Glingle’s comment # 5 and Marie at # 31
Sorry!!
JJB #7 – that’s priceless. Ahmadinejad comes off as a saint in that interview. That is some accomoplishment by Pelley!
Cheney’s having another good day: just got the green light from the Senate for his “Target Iran” mission. The Senate Vote on the Lieberman/Kyl amendment here for those who like to llook at the sausage being made. Interesting that Hillary showed her true colors on this one. Obama weaseled out.
Now how fast with the House DEMs get on their knees for Herr Cheney? Should we start a pool on this prediction? Minutes, hours or days?
Mcat, I could see my comments right after they were posted.
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[chant] Chemtrails… UFOs… Fluoride in the tap water… Hoffa’s body… booga booga !! [/chant]
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ms_x – so could I. These WP filters are whacky whacky…
I’ve sometimes found that if I post, it shows up immediately & stays up even if I refresh the thread, but if I leave the page and come back, it’s disappeared… but hey, it’s free!
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ms xeno
thanks for mentioning…
i am beginning to think there is a bug in the “edit comments” page that highlights for me coments that need to be let out of moderation.
lucid had mentioned to me that he could see his, in the past, in the thread, but not listed on the side bar for Recent Comments. We thought maybe as he has a WP blog and account.
Thanks for telling me that… because it does bother me that people comment and have to wait (esp if I am dead asleep… LOL) to have their comment appear.
And this am it was nearly all between # 5 and # 31…
transcript of the hour long show Democracy Now! with Evo Morales…
Jordan Flaherty (iirc a native Louisianian, lives in NO, I posted many of his articls on Katrina, he stayed inside NO thru it…)
on Jena, from Left Turn magazine:
good idea, boyo. ok, i worked up my contribution schedule and the amount is equal to the democratic accomplishments this session.
$0.00
sorry, i’m really busy right now and don’t have the time to spend that your important solicitation so obviously requires. can you call back?
fwiw – wherein I get dkosser to make a luke-warm apology to Madman.
sorry!
just found bay in spam.
#42, bay – yeah, count me in on that one. I pledge $0.00!!! Who else will chip in?
atrios: And if you sign up for the free trial by clicking the link below I get a bit of a kickback
in the old days we used to call that “payola”.
I’ve posted a couple of video clips of Phil Donohue speaking about the Iraq War and his new documentary, along with a clip of him taking on O’Reilly.
Otherwise known as capitalism.
Carolyn Lochead, the SF Chron’s DC bureau chief, on Iraq. I don’t mind CL, for one thing she is usually irritable. Seems an appropriate response to the current mess… 8)
AND a little side bar to the piece:
In Iraq: Sunni extremists launch at least 10 attacks in 48 hours in an apparent campaign to assassinate police chiefs, police officers and other Interior Ministry officials throughout Iraq. A17
mistrial declared in Phil Spector trail.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yrccyc
I tried to correct “trial” from above and got this funny message from WordPress:
“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”
Did someone get poked in the eye from the fast comment?
Good lord, we can put pretty much any innocent person of color we want on death row, but we can’t convict Phil Spector?
I know you were waiting… per BBC:
Phil Spector jury fails to decide.
Sounds a hung jury to me…
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one of the many bugs… sorry Miss D
WP may not like Phil Spector… 8)
Did someone get poked in the eye from the fast comment?
That was your fault? OUCH!
This was posted last night at buddyrama.
http://www.docudharma.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=812
Callmecassandra:
“This platform [democrats] decides for Palestinians what is Just. This platform never acknowledges what Palestinians have had stolen. This platform gives away lands belonging to Palestinians without Palestinians’ consent. Democrats ignore the abuses, the crimes, the humanitarian crisis. Democrats say nothing about Israel’s threats to cut off electricity to all of Gaza. People hear ‘cut the electricity’ and think it’s similar to a power outage where the only harm is no TV and no computer to blog. They don’t think about the hospitals. They don’t think about the water.
“So, I ask myself, “If Democrats are willing to sell out their values – compassion, acknowledgement and justice – when the matter involves Palestinians, what would they do to me, to Blacks (or any minority) if it became politically expedient to do so? Then again, I may already have the answer to that.
The denial of Palestinians’ humanity is within the Democrat party. The denial results in with the banning of I/P diaries. The denial results is the suppression of Palestinian advocates.
“I’m told the reason for this suppression of expression, the suppression of humanitarian issues, is due to “toxicity” arising from I/P diaries. At what point did liberals back away from justice and compassion because of ‘toxicity’ and sensitivities. Is there anyone here who remembers how Blacks were “advised” to speak softly else they may offend? It’s the same g-damn shit. Offend who? And who the f’ck cares?? What the hell is the worth of ‘toxicity’ or ‘offense’ next to justice and compassion?
hmmm mmmm last I heard Bush opposed it. LOL I call it the Biden Ford proposal as both pushed it from the 06 hustings. And of course half the time Harold Ford was standing in front of a Confederate flag and claiming his black grandmother was white.
What a country!
and some on Myanmar and corp interests:
The News Hour saying 6 dead, including 5 monks. It came from one of the exile Democratic groups.
55: Callmecassandra was always one of the most reasonable posters at Daily Kos–no wonder they took her rating abilities away. I wish she’d post at PFF.
48: I can’t say I agree with you about Carolyn Lochhead. I’ve always found her to be pretty right-wing. Check out where she worked before working for the Chronicle: http://thisweek.kqed.org/guests/72/index.html
SA
I didn’t endorse CL, I said I did not mind her. I sometimes catch her on the Friday evening news program with Belva Davis on KQED/PBS.
Speaking of journalists, check out Wolf Blitzer showing his true colors (and getting pwn3d by Norm Finklestein in the process): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-8aTGnjHnI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecampidiot%2Ecom%2Fci%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Fid%3D20173
in an astonishing tour de fource of 21st century televsion journalism, Diane Sawyer has thrown caution to the winds, possibly risking her entire career, and interviewed the “always controversial” jenna bush.
Jenna, following in the literary footsteps of her grandmonster, has embarked upon her literary career with a book sure to be loved by the target audience, vulterable 14 to 17 year old anglo females, many of whom will have this inspirational joy
foisted upongiven to them byuncaringloving relatives this upcoming HOLY CHRI$TMAS season.blind eyes on the “news”: watching so you don’t have to.
I dunno.
the scuttle of the butt is that Miss Jenna has had two abortions. NOT controversial in the fmaily, I am sure.
I mean let’s get real… all of that prohibition stuff is to browbeat the locals, natives, and naifs. Pander to the religionists and authoritarians. And whomever else.
Does not mean they fuss with that AT HOME.
good idea, boyo. ok, i worked up my contribution schedule and the amount is equal to the democratic accomplishments this session.
$0.00
No kidding, Bay.
These guys are so fucking clueless, such third rate shills. Last week, Zogby had congress pegged at 11% approval, I imagine after this week it’s even lower.
Meanwhile a Dem majoity is poised to hand Bush another 187 Billion this week. We’re going to need our money.
61, bay: chapters are only a few pages long
LOL! Jenna the Minimalist.
the family appears to be framing it as educational material. probably so unca neil can sell it to the schools as part of NCLB. from the amazon review:
maybe barb could buy a few thou at a steep discount and write them off at list price as a charitable donation again. after all, a similar scheme flew once.
the comments in the thread at the abc site are just too much. total american idiocy.
That second photo is amazing.
I never thought I’d say this but Maureen Dowd rocks.
Vicente Fox’s Secret Service.
http://www.pbase.com/srogouski/image/86234247
Is Lee Bollinger going to chew out Peter Pace on stage?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070926/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/pace_homosexuals
Here’s an excerpt from Jenna Bush’s book:
“Good night,” said the younger waiter.
“Good night,” the other said. Turning off the electric light he continued the conversation with himself. It is the light of course but it is necessary that the place be clean and light. You do not want music. Certainly you do not want music. Nor can you stand before a bar with dignity although that is all that is provided for these hours. What did he fear? It was not fear or dread. It was a nothing that he knew too well. It was all a nothing and a man was nothing too. It was only that and light was all it needed and a certain cleanness and order. Some lived in it and never felt it but he knew it was already nada y pues nada y pues nada. Our nada who art in nada, nada be thy name thy kingdom nada thy will be nada in nada as it is in nada. Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada as we nada our nadas and nada us not into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada. Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee. He smiled and stood before a bar with a shining steam pressure coffee machine.
“What’s yours?” asked the barman.
“Nada.”
“Otro loco mas,” said the barman and turned away.
“A little cup,” said the waiter.
The barman poured it for him.
“The light is very bright and pleasant but the bar is unpolished,” the waiter said.
The barman looked at him but did not answer. It was too late at night for conversation.
“You want another copita?” the barman asked.
“No, thank you,” said the waiter and went out. He disliked bars and bodegas. A clean, well-lighted cafe was a very different thing. Now, without thinking further, he would go home to his room. He would lie in the bed and finally, with daylight, he would go to sleep. After all, he said to himself, it is probably only insomnia. Many must have it.
That’s damned good writing.
Oh no…wait…it’s Hemingway…damn I always get those two literary geniuses confused.
Hm, I wonder if any ordinary 26-year-old would have gotten her book published? I’m sure that the Bush name had absolutely no bearing on the publisher’s decision.
Question: what blogs are covering the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on the FP? TPM put it up without analysis (they would get back to readers on this). Not on Atrios, Huff-Po or Kos. Steve has it on TLC and is truly bummed about it. Is this a coordinated move to bury this one or merely coincidental? Is this the dog that didn’t bark that proves they are in the pocket of the DEM Party?
Marie — the past year I have been paying more attention to what they ignore than they cover. Some stuff will brew to the top later. Kos specificlly will just do a quick one sentence blurb or try and hide it in his news roundups. He is all about burying stories in the roundups while still being able to say he covered it
#43 – thanks for that lucid.
I have little patience for his scolding about how “nasty” I am … there is no point being polite w/ people who agitate for the rightist, militarist status quo while they whine when people are nasty with them.
Oh, and for someone to NOT recognize my mention of ancestry and the Dakotas is a sign of how historically ignorant he is.
Oh, and my tone will make it so much easier for the gov’t to keep track of me, should they ever feel the need. I do my best to be accomidating for our overlords.
i wouldn’t be surprised, marie. the AM fundraising push seems particularly well-times, if one knew that this capitulation was coming down the pike.
Marie, it’s quite clear by now that the content of the Democratic Party blogs are coordinated via email. The content may vary, but what is notable is that all of the content is acceptable to the element of the party that’s funding these blogs (the New Democratic Network, or NDN, which is the spiritual and functional heir to the DLC).
Fuck the big blogs. 60 micrblogs help organise the 25,000 people who marched in protest of racial injustice in Jena, Louisiana, while the BBBs sat by and nattered on about Google bombs and sending money to Senator DoNothing from Bumfuck, Iowa.
Question: what blogs are covering the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on the FP?
Also, is Media Matters covering the way the NY tabloids have used traditional anti-semitic imagery in the way they’ve portrayed Ahmadinejad?
It’s all O’Reilly all the time.
The NYC tabloids have been indistinguishable from Der Sturmer this week. The only voice of dissent I’ve seen in all of it is Maureen Dowd.
When the cutting edge new netroots media is behind Maureen Dowd, you have a problem.
BTW, if you ban Keith Moon he only shows up elsewhere.
Does this sound like Keith?
http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/91198.html
Ahmadinejad ENSLAVES women. nuf said, right? i’d like to see u ack guys bein forced to wear a fuckin BURKA- and then defend your country cuz its ‘anti-imperialist’- HA! oh yeah, no war against iran and all that. but as a true anti-nuclear activist ‘no nukes’ means no nukes. i DO hope iran’s nuke sites are blown away- as long as there’s a warning and no civilians are hurt. yup, i did say that. it’s a done deal anyway cuz isreal (oh yeah fuk zionism) will never alow their nukes- NEVER. unfortunatly isreal could give a shit about civilians.
You people in San Francisco have no idea what a Nuremberg Hate Rally NYC’s been all week.
Liberal my ass.
MyDD does have it on the FP and was harshly critical of those that voted for it. But unlike Soto, didn’t express that this was a devastating blow. Interestingly enough, TPM labeled as a terrible amendment that the Senate must reject only two days ago.
More interesting is that this came up for a vote today. It was scheduled. Which is apparently why Obama and McCain weren’t there for the vote. There is something exceedingly bizarre about this.
if wordpress were Phil Spector, it would be sticking that comment in your mouth, not your eye.
Obama’s going to be in Washington Square Park tomorrow for anybody in NYC.
5PM
Yes Keith (Olbermann not Moon). We all know O’Reilly’s a racist dirtbag.
The President of Iran certainly made some bigoted remarks about gays:
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, caused a stir at the United Nations Wednesday when he repeated his view that gay sex is immoral and should not be condoned.
What an unenlightened mediaevalist bigot that Ahmadinejad is! It’s a good thing we don’t think that way in the United States.
Oops, my error…I transposed the names and places. Here’s the original quote:
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, caused a stir at a Senate hearing Wednesday when he repeated his view that gay sex is immoral and should not be condoned by the military.
So: one man sucking another’s cock is immoral…
But if that same man takes his rifle and puts a bullet in another human being’s brain, he’s…moral?
But if anybody thinks he’s being pushed out they’re deluding themselves.
Imus was a creature of the old corporate whore media. He was an enterainer not a poltical operative.
O’Reilly’s a political operative. Fox isn’t corporate entertainment. It’s political propaganda.
O’Reilly’s no more going off the air than Scooter Libby was going to jail for “Fitzmass”.
Crooks and Liars has something on the K/L Amendment.
68, ST: oh puhleeze don’t inflict Hemingway on us. As Huck Finn says, “I been there.”
I love the story about Gertrude Stein waving a handkerchief in front of her white poodle, Basket, like a matador teasing a bull with his cape, and saying “Go on – be Hem, be fierce.”
I have something up at TLC on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment.
MitM #82 thanks – will go take a look at it.
LOL speaking of coordination and what the blahgs know, who tells them and so on… after Iowa came down jan 18 iirc…. last go round, I went back and looked at this FP demand Kos put up a bare two days befoe Iowa in 2004.
saw what I saw and tucked it away.
LOL hard to convince me he did not know the shape and form of the caucus and the aftermath that was building. The DNC made a demand of Kos for cash, a last chance for some time to get cash from Dean people.. and so on.
I’d be stupid to have thought otherwise.
He got a bare couple thousand off this demand. and the small ungilded shit turned around and demanded again the very next day. meaner if possible.
it’s a gang.
Ahmadinejad has been looking pretty good lately. I admire the guy in many ways. He doesn’t look like an insane murderous tinpot dictator to me. In comparison, Bush does.
Some good stuff in this, even though it does the usual bit of pinning it all on the Republicans and refusing to face how the Donklephants help sell the fear, too.
Bed-wetter Nation.
Gives a rundown of Kruschev’s visit here in the ’50s, then:
I feel an incident in a motel or a bathroom stall coming at some point in Pace’s future. Methinks he squeals “icky!” a little too loudly.
Actually I DID see Imus as an operative. True, for several years the density of content on the show got thinner and thinner, but I did see him as an operative.
I think he was looking forward to running hard against Hillary, when it took his fancy.
One week later, VTech, and his words about the Rutger’s womens team would have been spit in a big big storm. Gone in less than a heart beat and forgotten.
Be interesting to see what happens.
Being kicked out of my apt. the building owner says I need to move out in order to have the repairs she has neglected to have done can take place. I just looked up the rental laws and I think they have to give me 60 days notice and they gave me 30. I suspect there is building code violations here. Ideas? (off to talk to brother lawyer)
Miss D, is there any kind of rental board in your county? [You can probably get all the rules and regs online…]
You can call the county building inspectors out to inspect and document anything you see that is wrong and order repairs.
hrh:
In future, I shall warn you of all Hemingwayesque content so you can just scroll past.
Perhaps Hemingway the man was less than admirable, but as a writer, he was a giant, and I make no apologies for admiring him in that capacity.
I only wish Hemingway had been somewhat more prolific, but it’s hard to be a prolific minimalist 🙂
kruschov ws treated well, he came here to SF…
Ahmadinejad has been looking pretty good lately. I admire the guy in many ways. He doesn’t look like an insane murderous tinpot dictator to me. In comparison, Bush does.
Ahmadinejad is awful.
The media’s trying to make us choose between Bush and Ahmadinejad, as if there were no alternatives.
The few dissenters in NYC this week were making that very explicit.
http://www.pbase.com/srogouski/image/86213568
They got it. Kos didn’t.
Once you’re put into a position where your only options are Christian Fundamentalists and Zionists vs. Islamic fundamentalists, you’re genuinely fucked.
And you saw how this happened all week in NYC. The American right and Ahmadinejad were feeding off of each other like vampires. The more hype it got, the more both reactionaries sides were strengthened. It was truly awful.
Thank God for Maureen Dowd.
ON THE JOB – The former president’s pool boy
I think Phil Spector just got one of my posts.
kruschov ws treated well, he came here to SF…
So are the leaders of China when they come here.
And yet China executes more people in more gruesome ways than Iran does.
Thank God for Maureen Dowd.
Yikes. Did I actually say that. But she’s been the only voice of sanity I’ve seen so far.
Question: Is everyone assuming that it was OK for the US to bomb Afghanistan because the Taliban shielded Osama?
Answer: No, obviously. I thought it was a ridiculous decision from the beginning. Of course, being antiwar and thinking it should have just been treated as a police matter had more than a little to do with that. Revenge is a dish best served cold – once you’ve figured out exactly who it is you should be going after in the first place.
Answer: No, obviously. I thought it was a ridiculous decision from the beginning.
Well I supported it in 2002.
December of 2002 was something of an eye opener for me. My politics really started to change once I saw how they let Osama go at Tora Bora.
That would have been too easy. They would have got the guy who actually did it. There would have been catharsis a few months after 9/11 and there would have been no invasion of Iraq.
thanks for the Silbur link, btw. Wonderful and depressing, as always, and spot on.
I never supported Afghanistan.
I never trusted the Democrats to go to war, never supported the wars of the 90s… no reason to support Bush in some nasty killing adventure.
And it ws clear very quickly what we were in Afghanistan. Between NYRofB, Harper’s, London R of Books… even the god damned NYT.
And very quickly the Army ME classfied the deaths of two POW (what they really are) in custody as “homicide”.
Oh, and those photos of the monks, that sea of cinnamon robes … I hope they prevail in their struggle.
It’s hard to catch up on this blog after work.
I never supported Afghanistan.
I was as traumatized by 9/11 as anybody else (maybe more since I was 3 blocks away from the WTC when it came down and the cloud made my window go black for 20 minutes). Then the anthrax attacks freaked me out even more. I naively believed they were going into Afghanstan to get Osama. I remember standing up and (sincerely) applauding with a room full of people when they reopened the stock exchange.
I was in Naomi Klein’s state of shock, vulnerable to suggestion.
A few points of order:
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If so, must it be submitted with the standard
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the Uni-Blog Bubble Bursting Pass still in effect?
Just who DO I see about this ?? LOL
http://www.politicalfleshfeast.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=502
When America Went Fascist
Mike Gravel the voice of sanity as usual.
Hillary is laughing at him as though he’s crazy.
Fuck you Hillary.
STRIKE!
22 September 2007
Posted by marisacat
STRIKE!
by buhdydharma
Wed Sep 26, 2007
interestingly enough, both posts not only share a remarkable similarity in the head, both pieces cite the piece at harpers.
Kids!
its HowdyDoodyDharma time!!!!!
want to go? if you do, all you have to do is say
HAT TIP!
YEA!
Marisa #103 – I was there with you on Afghanistan. However, must confess that I didn’t study Bosnia/Kosovo closely enough when Clinton sent in troops there. Knew enough not to have an opinion either way on it, but that was as far as I got on that one until much later.
Durbin is now saying that Kyl-Lieberman doesn’t mean much. Wonder if he read that damn thing. It cherry picks from Petraeus and Crocker’s testimonies and the latest NIE and puts the Senate seal of approval on it. Got to love Hillary speaking out of both sides of her mouth again.
Go away Joe Biden.
Let’s see the evidence Hillary. They gave it to us during the Cuban missile crisis and that was 40 years ago. Surely satellite technology is better now.
Bunch of wafflers on Iran who can’t even answer a straight question. That sure evokes confidence, doesn’t it?
I can’t watch the debate. Let me know if anything cool happens. I’m not expecting it, but one can always hope that Hillary will let the shell slip and the gibbering, slobbering vampire she really is underneath will come out under the bright teevee lights.
Daniel Ellsberg:
‘A Coup Has Occurred’
Given the votes today, there isn’t any sign at all that there will be a change in climate.
He concludes:
It’s not going to change … though bless Ellsburg for trying to get people to TRY to change it.
My suggestion.
In the primaries, if you’re a Democrat vote for Kucinich or Gravel. If you’re a Republican, vote for Ron Paul.
Then sit out the election or vote third party, ANY third party, even the League for the Trotskist Revolution or the Natural Law Party or Joe the Pro-Marijuana Candidate.
Anybody. But no vote for Hillary in 2008.
They want progressives to sit out the primary and come back for the general election.
Do the opposite.
Madman, In adjusting my compass, drawing on last centuries events I’ve thought we might be in a proto facist state, (as if its not bad enough..) the come-uppance of this War not being fully realized in casualties and economic collapse headed home, the full, crushing scope of the emerging police state yet to be felt….. splitting Hitlerian hairs I know…
Exactly, HCfM.
Vote local for real liberals and leftists. Fuck the national party.
Another good one up at Orcinus
richardson let slip that israel is the main purpose for us med east policy.
HILLARY I AM ASHAMED OF YOU.
seriously. i foud myself spontanously clapping and hooting at gravel.
HC, Well, Joe the Marijuana Party’s campaign at least offers a lanyard with a fully stoked, saxaphone sized bong attached…
Also been meaning to say HC you have just awesome pics
what did Gravel say this time? Have to look for him on You Tube later.
Democrats Pass the Buck to Full Senate on GOP ‘Voter Fraud’ Zealots FEC Nomination
Fuck them, fuck them all.
#107
Heh, even Pinochet said nothing had changed when he took power. “If you did nothing you have nothing to fear, ” was repeatedly broadcast by Pinochet controlled media shortly after the Putsch in 1973.
Ohio, Florida laws could dampen Democratic voting
And the Donklephants will do NOTHING.
Lanyards!! Crocheted out of hemp, no doubt.
That’s a low blow against Gravel – bringing up his bankruptcies.
Subtle Racism…
She sums up the way racism operates in this city really well:
She sums up Milwaukee very, very well.
whew, after all of that, a a poem to contemplate and appreciate.
new thread…
LINK
The really should just cut Richards off after 10 secs. He always lets some little nugget of truth slip
I think Hillary has a problem with gay people.
sorry!! just let two of Madman’s out of moderation…
they are just a couple of comments up thread, recent…
8)
bay – comment 110… thanks for noting that.
I would have missed it.
LOL oh I am sure docudonot has an agenda.
8)
argh I just went and read buhdybooboo’s STRIKE diary.
What a phoney.
I probably should not have used a subscription wall article, but I thought it was unusual enough to bother.
But AT LEAST I used large portions of it… buhdy links and nothing else.
Good lord. plus what a phoney!
Buddy complains…AFTER it’s a done deal.
132. marisacat – 26 September 2007
bay – comment 110… thanks for noting that.
I would have missed it.
LOL oh I am sure docudonot has an agenda.
At least the manufacture of consent is a domestic growth industry, and hasn’t been outsourced to India.
Yet.
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