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Focus 1 November 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, California / Pacific Coast, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Occupy Wall Street, The Battle for New Orleans, Viva La Revolucion!, WAR!.

Image: Robert Johnson  Gallery at Business Insider

The irresponsible and untended (where ARE their nannies?) children need focus.  They lack focus.  They need leaders.  They need 3 well articulated goals.  Not 2, not 4.  Three.

And so on.

We see how it goes today in Oakland… So many entities will be working against it… POA, the Oakland Police Officers Association run by a nasty thug, and the Oakland Chamber of Commerce have been all over the media…

Oh yes and never-to-be-forgotten, BART… an Oakland thug all on its own.

City thugs, state thugs, Federal thugs… Here a thug there a thug…we are crawling with thugs.  Lots and lots of Federal thugs will be out and about, esp at the Port of Oakland…


1. marisacat - 1 November 2011

I see 6 – 7 PM was:

Urban Squatting and Vision for Restructuring Governance.

Lay abouts, trust fund kiddies, old hippies who haven’t washed their feet in 40 years…


2. marisacat - 1 November 2011
3. ms_xeno - 1 November 2011

If anyone’s interested, I finally got around to moving my journal off LJ and onto Dreamwidth.

Like so.

Happy November! 😀

marisacat - 1 November 2011

Thanks for that.. I will update the old blogrolliana….


ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

Great. I will prove worthy of my fame by posting at least one more time this year. :p

4. ts - 1 November 2011

Don’t know how I missed this, but Nouriel Roubini jumped on the bandwagon back in September.


marisacat - 1 November 2011

I agree with that.. Greece needs to go back to the drachma and wave buh-bye to the EU mess…

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

Dig this, from the KKE

Nothin like Casual Friday

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011
marisacat - 2 November 2011

Tha worked Thanks!!

oh people are shaking in their boots. The commies are coming!! Commies Marxists Trots…. and so on.. heading straight for us…. they are they are!!

You know decades ago I loved The Mike Douglas Show, I’d flop in the floor after school to watch it… an old Irish crooner, puppy dog eyes, bad toupee and practicing Catholic… AND the show was an Ailes baby… but I lvoed it, before the day (and that would be TODAY!) when people ONLY appear to hawk somthing, on that show if you were in Cleveland and were of note in some way, dropped a dime to call Ailes or whomever… you just came on in… anyway one day … the actress from Laura was on… and spoke of her mental illness… and how she would know if she was sinking into bi polar, schizophrenia or whatever manic state plagued her…

ANYWAY the example she gave was if she heard herself at a party say, The Commies Are Coming… she’d know the illness was descending, send someone to find her husband and get her out of there and head for the doctor….

I Loved it! If only people understood what fearing a commie under every bed REALLY is all about

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

If only people understood what fearing a commie under every bed REALLY is all about

Under every bed? 😯 😉

marisacat - 2 November 2011

Oh I think there should be one under every bed. Other wise it would be DISCRIMINATION.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

I cannot get it to load… will try again in a bit.


sigh… too many computer problems lately.. one reason I am wandering around in my mind to go for an upgrade (not hte hardware, but getting off dial up)

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

Sorry. here’s the KKE home page


and links to the papers leftish and rightish



and this should be the original of the mil firings…


And FWIW, Daily Mail (I know!) is openly stoking a coup

marisacat - 2 November 2011

well … Papandreou is in a tough spot… like him or not, but they really ganged up on Greece when it dared to rotate in a [nominal] Leftischer party into the majority. Of course the right wing party htat held sway previously is treated like a non participant.

Thsi whole rigged game that has played out for years with the EU dangling membership to various of the former Eastern bloc, to Turkey to Greece and so on.


BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

I’m for whatever does maximum damage to the speculative parasites. What a congealing fuckball tho…. I do see Papandreou’s call for a referendum, ( and I wonder whether Merkel has a plausibly deniable hand in this as everyUSA!body indeed IS shocked! shocked!…..Well snookered Sarko and Goldman alum Wall Street whiz Gov’s aside, it works a way to pruning the more US&UK centric Banksters further,,,seems to me that’s what this latest move is really about, Whether the US and their anus-for-rent Sarko can extract JP Morgan, Cit,i and GS from their slam dunk assumptions that they’d get cushy cramdowns (see Corzine- Hell, who was fronting HIM the money for Chrissakes? )…. vs. the kind of write-offs necessary on the continent for THEM – Hello – respect for others THEM to, ah NOT MELT THE FUCK DOWN, and, as far as Merkel and/or notions (and degree) of “German” (translation: German PTB, lather rinse repeat) where such ambitions and world-view are concerned, whether they can assert themselves or not…

Lousy, lousy, nasty game all around. The Euro a Sorosian speculators wet dream on the way up, the Banksters AND EUC footsie all along… crafting, then bending EU admission rules to beggar thy neighbor : promoting private pillage upon state holdings in the Eastern Bloc….

I came across some blips today floating around attributed to Henry Kissinger on Greece
during Operation Atilla ….

The Greek people are anarchic and difficult to tame. For this reason we must strike deep into their cultural roots: Perhaps then we can force them to conform. I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to develop, to distinguish themselves, or to prevail; thereby removing them as an obstacle to our strategically vital plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East.

Well, and not that I’d put anything past Kissinger, he’s not the only whackgendercider floating around the ole islands here either
Yep, rootin for the communists in this one.
Happy to join ’em on the bed, in the bed, under cover- Hell I don’t care, whatever works, I’m flexible and willing to learn. 😆

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

( the KKE have 21 seats in the 300 seat Parliament.)
Papandreou has a 3 seat hold on his coalition,
and they just sacked their Joint Chiefs basically , uhm, to, ah, Stave off a coup, anyone?

and neither the right or the center left is happy with any of the cherrypicked cabinet ministrations either.

Seems …Everybody WANTS IN! …AND OUT! ::shock:

but for laughs (and posterity’s sake) I highly HIGHLY recommend this read and especially clip cantained therein from CNBC today…

5. marisacat - 2 November 2011

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange loses appeal against extradition to Sweden

LONDON — WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has lost his appeal against extradition to Sweden to answer sex crime allegations, the Associated Press reports.

In a judgment Wednesday, Judges John Thomas and Duncan Ousely said that Assange, who was in court to hear the verdict, should be sent to Sweden to be questioned over the alleged rape of one woman and the molestation of another in Stockholm last year.
The 40-year-old has denied wrongdoing, and insists the case is politically motivated by those opposed to the work of his secret-spilling organization. . . . .

Read more at:

6. marisacat - 2 November 2011


[T]oday’s veteran protest in New York will coincide with Oakland’s general strike and protest that threatens to shut down the Port of Oakland, the fifth-busiest container port in the nation. . . . . .

Read more: Business Insider

7. marisacat - 2 November 2011

Don’t make me laugh TOO hard… CBC test each other on loyalty to Black Reagan. Primaries ….

I hope all congressshitters bite each other to death, black white and in between.

[W]hat I’m finding quite strange is that at such a difficult point in American life, Obama is facing opposition from within the Democratic Party and from members of the CBC,” said Hall, a black state assemblyman. “What I find incredible is that we are throwing the president under the bus.”

Hall is blitzing senior centers and churches to highlight his support for the president. He’s sent out a cascade of press releases trumpeting his support for Obama’s jobs plan and proclaiming himself an Obama partner. In one recent email, Hall noted a recent visit he made to the White House. . . . .

Read more: Politico

“What I find incredible is that we are throwing the president under the bus.”

Well I don’t want him under the same bus I am under. Let him find his own lousy bus!!

What a laugh it all is.

8. BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

I still say it only went to shit at the G20 in London until AFTER they deployed The McCartney

snicker. In Cannes tomorrow, I fear the worst. I mean, what happens if desperate French authorities, you know, roll out Jerry Lewis or somethin’?

marisacat - 2 November 2011

Watching Euro News… the protests look pretty big in Nice Cannes etc… they are blocked here ad there, masses of cops in black riot gear… but lots of people too.

“La Vie, Pas La Bourse” is a sign I see a lot: Life, not the money markets

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

They all-but evacuated Cannes for it…
I hope they checked under every bed.. 😉

Anti-G20 protests confined to Nice as police seal off ‘fortress Cannes’

Cannes closed to demonstrators as 12,000 police deployed to provide security for G20 summit

Jeezus –
It’s all so Historic and fortressy and artsy-fartsy now…

marisacat - 2 November 2011

I think the French police are shirkers… they should send a contingent to Oakland too.


BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

Slackers. Loafers. Freeloaders. LOL.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

You know the French, they are under the bed with the designated household commie.


9. diane - 2 November 2011

Jeesh, ….. Liboowaal$GWEEN$PWOGWESSIVE, …Golden Showoohs, …. NorCali!!!!! (SNIRK)

Rob Owens: SAN FWANCISCO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ….KGO TALK WADIO!!!!!/ABC … pweviously fow Obombya …..now for Bloomberg (and …. The Supew Committee!!!!!!! ™ ….(thanks MadMan)), …. as a Thewd Part[a]y …CandyDate !!!!!!!!

Some people really tempt me to buy an uzi…(including Sir Paul).

marisacat - 2 November 2011

Thre is a new owner at KGO (Cumulus merged with Citadel and Cumulus took over at the station) and the previous Gen Manager is out… I am hopeful for some broom action. Ronn Owens has a huge “personal services” contract that is up next year.

I think cheap is going to be the order of the day… we shall see…

diane - 2 November 2011

love the new CLOUD theme, so hip and current!!!! ….sigh …

I only tuned in to see what was happening in Oaktown, can’t view web videos; The..sans cable TeeVee (despite the money wasted on DIGITAL!!!!!!!! …) … is either untuneble to the freqwency or so hideous I have a visceral reaction …I so want to be there in Oakland.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

KRON 4 covering it heavily this am.. and I have on KTVU 2 now…

Quan holding a presser.

Everything peaceful so far… last I heard they were at Wells Fargo…

diane - 2 November 2011

I’ve been getting the ghastly, ghoulish, angular frozen pixelated bit on channel 2 FOX today (though usually able to receive that signal) …. though, have to say … I don’t at all mind the lack of audio.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

They ran the Noon news on 2 a bit long… and the reporter, forget his name, on the ground in Oakland was good. He commented, “nothing to criticise unless you dislike unity”.

Works for me!

diane - 2 November 2011

well ..it figures I’m not able to tune in when someone under the Fox network finally states something that rings true for people other than the powers that be.

(Fairly recently, I worked at a place which force fed FOX in the Cafteria and Lobby, ALL THE FUCK DAY LONG, talk about wanting to buy an uzi …hard to believe they’ve allowed a sane voice to speak …but I won’t complain)

marisacat - 2 November 2011

hell KTVU covers interntaional news every night at 10PM. During the hour long news. I just don’t think being a FOX affiliate means you are, necessarily, consigned to hell.

Considering what a nasty clusterfuck MSNBC (to say nothing of the affilates of NBC when they wish to be) and CNN are, who cares anymore. I think Obama being so pissy about FOX jumped a line of sharks. Disney, GE? No clean hands.

diane - 2 November 2011

and ..yeah, …they were hooked up, …no doubt Still R [& D], … just like a MOTHER FUCKER, … to the DC CAULDRON, … in SLY CON VALLEY …

diane - 2 November 2011

I despise them all, I can’t even tune into NBC anymore, outside of local, 4-1, nor ABC, 7-1 …on my Fan[tas]cy, force fed by DemRat digital teevee.

diane - 2 November 2011

I tried 4-1, a few times, will try again (was that DOktor Pill on there when I got that visceral wanna up heave reaction? ..or was that 20-1 …or 36-1 …Pubic TeeVee was doing vapiid toons and foodie taster tour re-runs of dying european countries …. talkin to myself sorry)

diane - 2 November 2011

well despite all the dotted lines …that link works, at least until it doesn’t, in which case ….for possible future reference:

Influence Alley

Bloomberg to Host “Go-Big” Coalition for Sunday Dinner
By Chris Frates
October 27, 2011 | 6:52 PM |

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg will host an intimate dinner at Gracie Mansion on Sunday night that brings together a bipartisan group of senators, Xerox chief executive Ursula Burns and other business and labor leaders to discuss how to pave the way for the Super Committee to “go big” and cut $4 trillion in federal spending, according to a source familiar with the dinner.

The Washington contingent includes Democratic Sens. Michael Bennet and Mark Warner and Republican Sens. Bob Corker, and Saxby Chambliss, among others. The meeting will be a much smaller, more strategic affair — 10 to 20 people — than a similar dinner Warner threw at his home in September, which had a guest list of 60.

Sunday’s dinner is another in a series of conversations that lawmakers, policy makers and business and labor leaders have been having since last summer to make a business case for big cuts in spending. A number of senators and business groups, including the Business Roundtable and U.S. Chamber of Commerce, having been urging the Super Committee to cut more than the $1.5 trillion it is charged with finding.

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(some bolding mine)

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

Oh that stump of a man who built his fiefdom upon whispers at dinner parties.

Muni Tax-Exemption Faces ‘Real Threat’: Kraft

Oh sure they are…… sure sure sure…
NOW They all SO need somebody to relieve them of gagillions in worthless municipoo shit-paper and the counterparty exposure (however lame , feigned, or fixed) that comes along with it….

This deal won’t last! Go Big! Get in Now!
BUY US OUT! While the gettin’s Good!

LOL….It’s all so Big and Historic and

Syms and Filene’s Basement want to start the liquidation process right away, aiming to capture what Mr. Binkoski called a “unique window” presented by the upcoming Black Friday weekend that kicks off the holiday shopping season.

Delaying liquidation until after the holidays could cost the company at least 10% to 20% in its recoveries on inventory, he said. The retailers have tapped liquidator Gordon Brothers Retail Partners LLC to handle going-out-of-business sales at five Filene’s Basement stores that were slated for closure before the bankruptcy filing.

The companies still need court permission to assume that deal in bankruptcy.

They also want a judge to authorize their use of cash. Without access to the cash–which serves as collateral for its debt–the companies would have to immediately stop operating their stores, “to the detriment of all stakeholders,” Mr. Binkoski said.

Once the liquidation wraps up, the companies intend to launch “a separate process to maximize the value of Syms’ owned real estate,” he added.

Known for its Running of the Brides event, where brides-to-be duke it out for deeply discounted gowns, and its slogan, “where bargains were born,” Filene’s Basement was founded in Boston in 1909. It entered bankruptcy in May 2009 and, after a contentious sale process, delivered its stores to Syms–which had help from Vornado Realty Trust –in exchange for about $65 million.

It’s a riot. It really is now..


10. BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

301 N. Live Oak St.
Rockport, TX 78382
Phone: 361-790-0138
Fax: 361-790-0185

County of Aransas, 301 N. Live Oak, Rockport, Texas 78382
Aransas County Judge C. H. “Burt” Mills, Jr., 361-790-0100
November 2, 2011

ARANSAS COUNTY, TEXAS – Judge Burt Mills has today announced that Aransas County is aware of the video posted on YouTube regarding County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams, and the matter is now under review by the Police Department. Please refrain from communication with County offices or the Sheriff’s Department on this matter until the review has been completed. Calls, emails, and faxes only create disruptions for other ongoing county business. The public’s cooperation would be most appreciated.

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

The video is from 2004, so the authorities in whatever Texas Gulf Coast cesspool this thug operates in – I see the sicko is a Family Court Judge at that – – his cronies are already hem-hawing over statutues of limitations.
Daughter calmly states its part of her recovery.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

6 years?

Hepefully there is not a statute of limitations for child abuse.

ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

I asked mr_xeno about this. He said that if memory/what he’s read serves, there’s no limit involved, because he beat a disabled person. The statute is either different or non-existent in the case of a disabled victim.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

oo thanks for that… !

marisacat - 2 November 2011

and so hard of hearing that they strained on Wednesday to hear a federal judge

It looked like at least one of the men lived in an old trailer.

I wonder if they were just wishing.

Who knows.

diane - 2 November 2011

What a sick, nasty, ugly blotch on such a fine VOCATION!!!!!! ….ohhhh wait …

Perhaps at some point in time, that viciously perpetrated $US$ mythology: about those with the jawbs …and those without them ….. marked (as in pissed on) to be unemployable …. (.particularly those jawbs with such frightening power to destroy lives, such as his), will be put to it’s long overdue death.

11. marisacat - 2 November 2011

Media is very thrilled they got what they needed, “violence” at the Oakland march…

windows broken and graffiti at a Wells Fargo, a BofA and a Whole Foods, either next door o close to each other, near Lake Merrit. After event film of course, nothing showng it happening.

”Protecting business” so clearly will be the excuse the next time they violently clear the Ogawa plaza… which is coming of course..

Just looking thru the gallery of the Veterans marching today in NYC… and the thread is ugly.

ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

Too many people don’t understand that wars always radicalize at least some of the people who serve.

That’s what happens when you can’t grasp that Forrest Gump was fiction.

marisacat - 2 November 2011

that wars always radicalize at least some of the people who serve.

isn’t it the truth?

I read a poll taken in Virginia Beach indicated large numbers of the mil want the wars over. And iirc that is where the special ops team that supposedly took down bin Forgotten is located…. And that is a pretty conservative area, or can be.

So many years, down the tubes. And more to come.

I have managed never to watch Forrest Gump. yeech. Not even on TV.

ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

I wouldn’t try it again without a bucket of No-Doz, myself.

I remember the writer of the original book whining in some article about how the “Hollywood liberals” didn’t give him the compensation that they should.

So sad… :rolleye:

12. marisacat - 2 November 2011

hmm NY Observer on Kelly and the NYPD. I gather he prefers Charvet ties. Just a regular joe!!

13. marisacat - 2 November 2011

From an email I sent to a friend:

oh the local news just ran film of interviewing parents, they gathered with small children (babes in arms and toddlers, they all looked to be really young) in front o f the Main Branch of the Oakland P library… and joined in from there.

Gonna be tough to stop this…

Read some of the reports from Tulsa. oh that needs to get around….

No trucks moving at the Port… word is they shut at 4:15 pacific… masses of peolple at the port… coming in solid for two hours…

Can’t say how happy it makes me… Interviewing truckers who SUPPORT.

They say some are begining to leave the port, but are met by more marchers coming IN.

14. ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

An update of the goings-on in PDX. A little less annoying and smarmy than the usual bORe!live fare:

Which isn’t saying much, but…


marisacat - 2 November 2011

thanks for that… yeah not too annoying at all…

ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

Even the “hip” rags here seem overly obsessed with talking about the booze, fights, shooting up. Emphasizing the chaotic or not-ready-for-primetime aspects.

I find this frustrating. Even if you believe that the people co-managing the encampments are not competent (at least in the accredited way that we associate with “Blue Ribbon Panels” and the rest of that nonsense), they’re trying to do something. Instead of just talking nonstop about what they’ll do someday.

A “real-time” update is also here.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2011

people are utterly terrified of change, even change from something bad, and falling back on lazy accepted stories seems safer.

It is old, and depressing, to see these same stupid attacks over and over again.

Hell, I’m still waiting to see pictures of bottles pelting OPD stormtroopers.

ms_xeno - 2 November 2011

I thought we all recycled that shit now. :p

I feel nostalgic for one of the pre-Hipsters who used to show up on LJ and whine about how the downtown anti-war protesters were messing up his work schedule. Or his bar hopping schedule. Whatever.

I suppose the majority of those dipshits have moved on to Twitter, et al. A really big loss for me.

15. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2011

JS photographer arrested while covering Occupy Milwaukee protest

A Journal Sentinel photojournalist and two University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee students were arrested near campus Wednesday during a rally connected to the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Photographer Kristyna Wentz-Graff was covering the rally, which began at noon in a plaza beside UWM’s student center. The group left campus on E. Kenwood Blvd., marching westbound in the street and on the sidewalk, chanting and carrying signs.

No arrests were made on campus, according to a university spokesman.

In a statement hours later, Milwaukee Police Spokeswoman Anne Schwartz said those arrested off-campus ignored repeated commands to clear the street and were arrested near the intersection of N. Oakland Ave. and E. Linnwood Ave.

“I can tell you that no one at MPD had any idea (Wentz-Graff) was a journalist until she arrived here at the police station,” Schwartz said. “She never identified herself as a journalist to officers.”

Schwartz said Milwaukee police had responded to a call by UWM Police at 12:20 p.m. Wednesday “to assist with protesters who took to the city streets near Kenwood Ave. and Locust St. without a permit following a rally on campus.”

UWM spokesman Tom Luljak said Schwartz’s statement mischaracterized the call from UWM police.

“We called Milwaukee police for informational purposes to inform them the students had left our campus and were marching down the sidewalks and streets,” Luljak said. “We did not request assistance.”

Luljak said a permit was not needed for a protest if it stays on campus.

Journal Sentinel Editor Martin Kaiser disputed the police account as it pertained to photojournalist Wentz-Graff’s arrest.

“At no time did Kristyna Wentz-Graff ignore any commands by any officer,” Kaiser said. “She came upon the scene to do her job as a photojournalist. She was clearly not part of the protest. She was wearing her Journal Sentinel photo press credential. She was carrying photography equipment while taking photographs of police making arrests when she was grabbed by a police officer and handcuffed. Her arrest was completely uncalled for and violates the First Amendment. No reason for her arrest has been provided.”

Schwartz confirmed that no tickets for specific violations of the law were issued. She said the matter was referred to the city attorney.

The Wisconsin News Photographers Association issued a statement defending Wentz-Graff, stating the association “finds today’s arrest of Kristyna Wentz-Graff entirely unacceptable. This is the second time this year that Milwaukee Police officers have arrested a photographer legally going about their job. It is time for the Milwaukee Police to recognize that photography is not a crime. Journalists provide a public service, but in Milwaukee they are being treated like a public threat.”

Michael P. King, secretary of the photographers association, noted that Wentz-Graff is a longtime member of the organization and a three-time winner of its Photographer of the Year award.

“She is the epitome of ‘professional,’ ” King said. King said the association will contact Police Chief Edward Flynn “and others to express our dismay over Kristyna’s arrest, and we hope that they will be willing to sit down with us and other media organizations to discuss how we can prevent incidents like this from happening in the future.”

The same offer was made when photojournalist Clint Fillinger of WITI-TV (Channel 6) was arrested in September while covering a house fire, King said.

“So far, they have not taken us up on our offer,” King said.

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2011
marisacat - 2 November 2011

They arrest anybody for anything now. Don’t dare cross the police, the electeds, etc.

BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

All of which forces them to draw down on Municipal credit lines…
people are drawn into this already, many just don’t know it yet…

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 November 2011

I think I should remind everybody that we’re supposed to be talking about Herman Cain, or at least we would be if we REALLY cared about politics!


That is all!


marisacat - 2 November 2011

I admit I am loving his fall………………… I hope he breaks his nose on the way down.

Talk about a man unravelling on his own. And to think he flustered and flopped around for 10 days, which imo Politico was kind to give him to come up with answers. SO finally they went with it.

Then it appears it may have been a Republican take down (gee is anyone shocked?)… Rovian or Perryan or Romneyian. Love it!!!

More please!

18. marisacat - 2 November 2011

BHHM comment :

I know! The major network media here literally pull up with a modified sort of “blown-in-insulation” truck, and guys quickly hop out , begin running trunks line into the house while technicians unravel an array of flex lines to which they hook up every occupant by every orifice thru which they

It is not optional.


19. marisacat - 2 November 2011

And another BHHM comment that went astray:

Watch the chicken and waffles crowd, already.

Georgia Men Held in Plot to Attack Government
Published: November 2, 2011

TOCCOA, Ga. — At the Waffle House here, no one can believe that the gray-haired men who came in almost daily for egg sandwiches and coffee could have been terrorists plotting to blow up government buildings and kill masses of people using poison from a bean plant that people in this rural part of the state grow to ward off moles.

The four men — bespectacled and so hard of hearing that they strained on Wednesday to hear a federal judge at their initial court appearances in Gainesville, Ga. —


have been accused of conspiracy and may be linked to a loose association of fringe militia groups targeting a government they believe is out of control, according to court papers.

“There’s two schools of thought on this: go for the feds or go for the locals,” Frederick Thomas, 73, a Navy veteran 😯 who was described as the leader of the group was recorded saying to an F.B.I. informant. “I’m inclined to consider both. We’d have to blow the whole building like Timothy McVeigh.”

Those statements and dozens of others were cited in court documents that also charged Dan Roberts, 67; Ray Adams, 65, and Samuel Crump, 68. The men were arrested at their homes on Tuesday by a wave of federal agents so big it stunned people in this mountain town of about 27,000

In America? Really?? Noh!

20. BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

And for anyone wondering the kind of reception ows is receiving, okay, here you have the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey # 3 commercial port in the US, and Philly still staggering on from one reprieve to another, but consider this from down Norfolk Virginia way, what’s goin on in Hampton Roads, 2nd major East Coast port, biggger than Tampa commercially and, uhm, think global naval operations….

Lots of friendly folk everywhere who’ve had it….
The article and the thread are very cheering…

marisacat - 2 November 2011

Going to be hard to stop this…

marisacat - 2 November 2011

oh that is cheering!

21. BooHooHooMan - 2 November 2011

This just in from the lofty heights…

Oh they CARE!
They really do!

And Thanks for appearing on camera!!
And Thanks for helpin out!
Now YOU”RE SURE to be on the LIST! 😆

marisacat - 3 November 2011

Maybe they could stop loading Rudolph down with bags of coal for the little people. Or, better yet, maybe they could jst STFUP

22. BooHooHooMan - 3 November 2011

😆 😉 LUCID in thread over at IOZ

I must say, however, that both college and graduate school were where I nourished my anarchist leanings and came to see human ‘civilization’ for the travesty it is.

Then again, maybe it was just the drugs.

23. diane - 3 November 2011

From the Occupy Oakland website

General Strike Shuts Port of Oakland and Downtown Banks

November 2, 2011

Huge, enthusiastic, crowds swarmed through downtown Oakland with half a dozen major marches on banks and corporations that shut down Wells Fargo, Chase, Citibank, Bank of America and many others. Police stayed clear of the strikers who ranged freely, from Broadway to Grand Avenue and around the Lake. By late afternoon the crowds had swelled to over 10,000. Waves of feeder marches continued to pour into the Oscar Grant Plaza, including 800 children, parents, and teachers who had gathered at the Oakland Main Library.

The evening march to the Port stretched from downtown to the freeway overcrossing in West Oakland and thousands more protestors kept arriving as the third convergence of the day reached its peak. Over 20,000 people joined the march which made its way to the main entrance of the port and shut it down completely. Port officials confirmed that the workforce was sent home.

Back at Oscar Grant Plaza a festive atmosphere continued as the Alameda Labor Council and dozens of representatives from a cross-section of unions served barbecue to thousands. Day of the dead altars, a 99% story telling tent, string sculptures, and hundreds of posters surrounded the encampment of the occupiers. Speeches, impromptu music jam sessions, and rock and roll echoed off the office towers as Oaklanders and Bay Area workers celebrated a hard won victory of the 99%.

As of 8 pm the police remained hidden out of sight.

Seize the Time!

Looking at various online news sites, it looks like the number of protesters was deliberately and wildly underestimated, at an average 3,000. Pam Moore at KRON 4 News at 11:00 PM said the police estimated the crowd at about 7,000, despite the continually scrolling KRON news strip almost halving that at an estimated 4,500. They did admit the protest was incredibly peaceful and showed video of protesters grabbing two graffiti sprayers (wouldn’t surprise me if they were ops) who managed to get away; but yeah, no video of the window breaking though (which again, wouldn’t surprise if they were ops) There were no reported arrests. Two protesters were hit by a car some asshole tried to force through the crowd and were taken to the hospital.

They said there were still around 900 protesters remaining and that about 100 of them may occupy an emptied building.

marisacat - 3 November 2011

At times on camera media, more than one, admitted to 10K… whcih tells me that it was more than that.

I mean, there were masses of people, they just kept coming to the Port… and even as people left the Port, they met others coming into the Port.

I think it was very successful…

marisacat - 3 November 2011

it sounds as tho riot police may be “kettling” th occupiers left at 14th and Broadway… (12:25 am)

Police and police vehicles have blocked off side treets…. sounds like they are moving in.

Reports say about 1000 left in the big intersection…

Callers to KGO say they have seen no violence but the evidence of the cops moving in….

diane - 3 November 2011

Fuckers … the live KRON footage noted how absolutely peaceful and layed back those remaining were.

Maybe they’ve been told to prevent a 3:00 AM march on the Port (KRON’s earlier evening broadcast noted that there may be a 3:00 AM march).

marisacat - 3 November 2011

12:41 police have fired tear gas and “flash bangs”… AP is reporting.

diane - 3 November 2011

just tuned into the KGO Gas Bag and heard the young woman saying the fuckers had the white buses …now gas bag is saying that AP reported it was due to bonfires in trash cans, and the tear gas has been fired.

The fire thing reminds me of a very suspicious fire that was lit at the November 2010 Mehserle protest (after we we had been kettled), which I still suspect may have been a/an op(s).

Even if it wasn’t suspicious (tonight) it sounds like a huge overreaction.

diane - 3 November 2011

(and I do have to say, that there was a young woman in the jail cell I was in with quite a few wonderful wimmins, who brought the thought to my mind that she may have been in on that trash can fire (and for ulterior unkind purpose), and was in the cell as a thought/intent vacumme, …she seemed so unaffected by the horror of that quite illegal ARREST – in a pre dawn zone which could’ve almost been pictorially mistaken for the Middle East -…to my recollect …(I should have, and intended to, .. written it all down … about Human Beings, …actions, and thoughts ……but it was too overwhelming to do so at the time, …a time when a family emergency (wouldn’t have been near the emergency on a far better earth) reared it’s frightening head, two days later. …. Supposedly that woman was transferred to the wimmins prison (versus short stay jail), to my recollect, was she? …Then again, she could have been so abused, …being a young VOICELESS wimmin …that she somehow became immune to the threat of PRISON, ….and certainly had every right to light up a trash can in her anger at the INJUSTICE, and then some, which really did no long term harm to anyone.)

diane - 3 November 2011

yup, beautiful! KRON didn’t have one interview of anyone griping either, two truckers who were interviewd were in full support … everyone was wonderfully energized … I loved it.

24. marisacat - 3 November 2011



………………… 🙄

25. diane - 3 November 2011

Loved the young man that spoke on KGO around 2:40 AM.

Thanks for the Guardian link. The Daily Mail has “reported” at least one blatant lie, about “a five hour standoff” during the daytime marches.

In a five hour stand off protestors vandalised businesses and smashed bank windows, as they tried to shut down the city with a series of marches.

interesting also, that they have excellent shots of those 3 or 4 anarchists, who smashed windows, yet there were no arrests made of those 3 or 4 that I heard of (not that anyone should los e too much sleep over broken bank windows, but to say it’s kind of interesting they weren’t arrested).

(sorry to post here getting a stupid “abort” trying to post on the current thread.)

26. diane - 3 November 2011

UPI has five pictures, in a series of 30, which really capture the nasty, deliberate, totally unwarranted, pre dawn turn of events in Oakland after all the teevee news casts were over (with no arrests to report) and most were asleep in all four US Time Zones.

Target Practice?

I could be mistaken but is that a bloodied mouth Maybe that’s the man who was pushed onto the cement for no reason, after the dispersement order that many said couldn’t be heard?

Is this going to be the daily reality of our near future? Why not hog tie them while you’re at it …. bastards.

Clearly, the odds are 99.9999 to .0001 that weren’t any fires etc. before the swarm of riot police took over the streets. I hope the video that the early morning woman caller to KGO spoke about, re that fact, gets spread far and wide.

And yeah the size of the crowd was stunningly underestimated by The Fourth Estate ™, especially if anyone with a brain takes into consideration that there were protests in many different locations all at once.

diane - 3 November 2011

hmmmm, …really bad choice of words I made (such a struggle now days between “haste makes waste,” …and, …“it is so very late in the day”) here:

… the size of the crowd was stunningly underestimated by The Fourth Estate ™,

I should have just written:

…Deliberately, With Sadistic Purpose: the size of the crowd was stunningly: Not Reported On…by The Fourth Estate ™, ….


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