What we wrought and the future we are building: global war 15 April 2007
Posted by marisacat in Big Box Blogs, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, The Battle for New Orleans.trackback
Triple Canopy contractor, Fijian army veteran Isireli Naucukidi [IraqSlogger photo]
IraqSlogger has a couple of good articles…
Now that Jeremy Scahill’s book on Blackwater has hit the New York Times bestseller list it may signal the beginning of a media pile-on on the security sector in Iraq.
Steve Fainaru of the Washington Post leads with the latest shot across the bow of private contractors providing security for contractors.
An out of control company is the subject of his newest piece on Triple Canopy working for KBR.
The article focuses on a routine trip to the airport from the Green Zone with a subtle difference. July 8, 2006 Team Leader 29 year-old ex-Marine Jacob C. Washbourne heading to the airport to go home said “I want to kill somebody today.” What ensues is gripping journalism.
Although Triple Canopy’s lawyers had threatened Slogger to remove the word “murder” from an earlier description of the same incident, the Washington Post article makes it very clear that something evil happened on that day… and apparently on other days.
“Before the day was over, however, the guards had been involved in three shooting incidents. In one, Washbourne allegedly fired into the windshield of a taxi for amusement, according to interviews and statements from the three other guards.”
The Washington Post points out that although the
“U.S. military has brought charges against dozens of soldiers and Marines in Iraq, including 64 servicemen linked to murders., not a single case has been brought against a security contractor.”
Like many other violent incidents, this one could have been buried under the usual smoke screen but Fainaru went deeper and longer..all the way to Fiji to interview a witness Triple Canopy forgot about. Steve Fainaru has been tasked by the Washington Post to focus exclusively on security contractors and has banked some yet-to-be-published but devastating pieces on security companies and is working on more. [snip]
Chilling piece. And then think of NO with both private contract security on the streets, recent Iraq returnees from the 82nd Airborne put into NO on purpose… Within 2 weeks, they had over 62,000 in various troops inside NO. Chilling figure.
Only some were there to help.
Oh a lovely world we are building. And this time we include ourselves, more than ever.
Bring it home baby!
From a post I did at LSF September 2005: Yes Indeedy Baby!
NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 8 – Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered weapons, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.
No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns, or other firearms of any kind, said P. Edwin Compass, the superintendent of police.“Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons,” he said.
National Guard troops took a man into custody for not leaving his home in the Garden District of New Orleans. The troops said the man became beligerent after he was asked to leave.
(Mark Boster / LAT) September 7, 2005
But that order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of security guards whom businesses and some wealthy individuals have hired to protect their property. The guards, who are civilians working for private security firms like Blackwater, are openly carrying M-16’s and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.
Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman
snips are from a NYT article of September 8…
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From another post, September 5 on New Orleans:
Demagoguery, Despair and, finally, Diaspora
(Carolyn Cole / LAT) September 3, 2005
The troops braced for the worst.
“Is this the calm before the storm?” one asked as they rolled through the streets.
“There are a lot of gangs out here in the water,” said Sgt. 1st Class Maris Pichon, a 26-year veteran of the National Guard who served in Afghanistan last year. “This is not going to be a cakewalk.”
Two trucks pulled beside them, one carrying water and one a massive pile of ready-to-eat military meals in boxes.
“Tell me they’re not letting the food go in before the troops,” one Guardsman said.
“That’s called bait,” another said.
This is in an American city where people were left behind, left (in the words of Ebbert, state EMT official, a quote from Monday) to “fend” in the SuperDome and “hidden” in the Ernest Morial Convention Center.. Left to die.
The Scotsman hailed the survivors of New Orleans (and the whole Gulf Coast) as HEROES. Yes!, poor blacks, elderly of all colors, children and infants, the infirm, dispossessed, those who would not or could not leave for any number of reasons, including not leaving ill and elderly family (and pets), YES: heroes. For surviving! And with it the Scotsman included a single thought, that in “escape from NY” situations, not all will hold up, not all will be good and crime and violence is no surprise… what a difference. That is humanity.
(Robert Gauthier / LAT) September 2, 2005
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Also at IraqSLogger, it is not news but it seems to be getting some traction… the pay out, miserly as we are, for deaths (a few of them) we cause in Iraq. As if we plan reparations. We will do it Vietnam style: No reparations.
We should know ourselves by now…
Editor & Publisher’s Greg Mitchell has rightly appealed for more coverage of this remarkable, troubling, heartbreaking story and fresh evidence associated with it: how Iraqis are compensated — or are denied compensation claims — by the US military after family members are killed or wounded by US forces in cases of mistaken identity or errors of other types.
Now hundreds of pages of revealing US military documents — Iraqi casualty claim payment requests — have been made public in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the American Civil Liberties Union, which has posted all the documents on its Web site.
Mitchell’s report is headlined “Sorry we shot your kid, but here’s $500”.
The game is Global War on people… and I sure do not hear the Democrats, likely to win the WH in ’08 just based on “change”, say much of value on GWoT. The great cover story for massive, free floating war on people.
And they WILL bring it home.
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Last, I was reading the comments at several of the New Orleans/Katrina postings I did in September 2005.
Very interesting, as wilfred and I had been banned the last weekend of August (Madman was personally banned by Kos, October 2005, for complaining about tired Red State Dems run as effing heroes before they do anything, yes that is Tester, Webb and Casey and others)… we were banned as individuals, not as part of a purge. I still to this day have never read the Hunter FP piece on the banning..
The Boyz, or whatever they are, have been slamming me and a lot of other people for years now.
People saying what they think that does not conform to what they want said, well, it really pisses them off. And their Box Car Site Minions and others on the Treats and Sweets Rez….
Who FP intellectually dishonest, numbers grabbing bullshit (Outing Bloggers, “Marisacat“, Paparazzi at the Box Car Site, BMT), lectures and drooling “erotica” attended by Maryscott with her tongue hanging out… Voyeurs, original and Maryscott’s reconstruction among other FP slams at MLW. In a sad, public loss of any grip on reality, METAmorphosis at MLW. Not to forget this gem. Eugene and Armando with others, did stand up routines at MLW thru 2005/06, parsing my banning over and over for the little hordes. In case you think there is something new in BlahgTown.
(Oh and as a chocolate on the pillow or extra vodka in your OJ: don’t miss the BMT proprietaire being cute with his hints.)
I won’t be stopping. And I am so amused at the lately landed stress and anger, sturm and drang, directed at Kos. Sure did ramp up after the BlogRoll trim…
Kos has not changed. Wakey Wakey. Try to get over the sales job that a Blog run by a [barely former] Republican was going to Save the Nation. What lousy fiction that one was.
Plenty bought it and still buy it:
Nonpartisan |
Marisacat.com: the last refuge of the deconstructors and blog-wreckers. Whoop-de-do. Enjoy your voyeuristic jollies while the rest of us get shit done.
It must be fun, watching serious bloggers do serious shit while you losers sulk in this corner of corners. Remember when we worked together to achieve something great in the Dean campaign? I’m sad, so sad it’s come to this. It’s like looking at the crack-heads in the alley and recognizing all your old friends. So sad.
Marisacat, I can’t believe how far you’ve fallen. You and I used to be on the same side re: Dean, IIRC. Now your home is the final resting place for the damned.
Jan 2, 3:08 AM
Clue: we never worked together.
And a very fair question is: What “serious shit”?
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UPDATE, 4:22 am …
Oh yes, what was I saying? Yes: Serious Shit. Well… just got an email reminding of this from Laura Flanders in The Nation…
In the case of Montana, the popular liberal bloggers Jerome Armstrong and Markos Moulitsas didn’t just overlook the role of movements in their account of the “miracle”; they actively disparagedpthem. “Montana Democrats nearly cut the issue groups out of their campaign efforts,” wrote Armstrong and Moulitsas in their book Crashing the Gate.
oh there is more… and I am sure many remember their imperious posts on how dismissive Schweitzer is/was of local grassroots and Special Interest groups (wash your mouth out with soap):
Calling it “a rare rebuke” of the issues groups inside the party, “but one that served the purposes of the long-suffering Montana Democratic Party,” the bloggers alleged that Schweitzer “threw all of the [interest group] questionnaires in the garbage.” Which allowed that, in their words, “Schweitzer and the rest of the Democratic ticket in Montana could stand on their own, unencumbered by whatever negative baggage those groups might bring.”
All that is just plain bunk. Maybe Schweitzer tossed somebody’s questionnaire in the trash, but according to the groups, he responded to the questionnaire from every “interest” group I’ve mentioned. Not only did Schweitzer respond to Montana Conservation Voters’ questions; he met with them, before and after the election, and sought the endorsement of their PAC, along with the endorsement of the state AFL-CIO and the teachers’ unions. [snip]
Boyz are PR guys – for their purposes.
Or, LOL, as my emailer called them, the dot con grifters.
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Marisacat 
damned and declared dead. who is this cat with 9 lives that brings back NOLA?
forgot to mention “progress” via Juan Cole:
“Sunday, April 15, 2007
289 Iraqis Killed or Wounded in Day of Rage
Four Killed in Karbala Demonstration
McClatchy estimates that 289 Iraqis were killed or wounded in political violence on Saturday. This passage is extremely important to understanding the sentiments of the Shiites of the South, among the main victims of the violence:
‘ Aqeel al Khazaali, the governor of Karbala, blamed the Baghdad Security Plan for the attack inside the relatively safe southern city. Karbala is about 50 miles south of Baghdad. “The Baghdad crackdown and the tribes in Ramadi are forcing the terrorists to leave their cities,” he said. “Now Karbala is under fire from terrorists, and the central government has to take the necessary steps to help us to protect the holy city.” ‘
gonna be a surge of horrific violence. That bridge, the one built by the British, taken out couple of days ago was a big tip off, right after the Parliament hit.
Just going to escalate. I still think they want to bring down an airliner, not just a helo, but a plane.
Revealing article from The Nation. Thanks, MCat. I was particularly struck by this passage:
I did a search at Daily Kos on “Native Vote” and “Montana Women Vote”. In all the diaries and comments for the past 5 years, there are NO MENTION of these groups in any diaries or comments, with one exception: this lameass diary from Plutonium Page in 2004, for which she pulled the info from an AP report.
Kos is a fucking fraud, and so are the rest of his crew.
That post from Nonpartisan is a gem. And now he comes sniffing around here looking for our attention. Hilarious!
The Buffalo Girl post you linked to was unbelievable. She sounds just like a rightwingnut. This is the kind of woman who fits in well at DKos.
breakfast of vipers: butter pecan ice cream.
I bought my dog this $10 bed at walgreens this morning and he is trying to relate to it.
he would much rather relate to the ice cream.
It appears I shall have to revise my original prediction.
It’s like trying to primary Lieberman out.
Alice needs a couple of clue sticks.
“clue sticks” love it.
get your discounted lanyards now!
IF it starts to go down it will damage the whole of lefty blogosphere. It is also important that Yearly Kos be a success.
I’m reminded of the band on the Titanic that kept playing even as the ship was sinking.
Hey Miss D, I had pecan brownies this morning. Breakfast of Champions!
NOLA? Did something happen there? I’m too busy trying to keep up with the new revelation that rappers swear and say misogynist things. You could have knocked me over with a feather. I mean, I know from watching the news that terrible things are almost always done by poor people and minorities, and that when bad things happen to them it’s usually their fault, but this sort of talk is just beyond the pale!
turning off the sarcasm, it’s sadly that sort of thinking that allows far too many people to think it was GOOD to but armed mercs on the streets of an American city. We will see more of it.
Whilst searching for a link to embed above, I found this little gem at Trinicenter dot com:
We forget as a country when we abandon the black community during disaster and economic upheaveal. We blame them for our crimes. We pat ourselves on the back for times when we begrudgingly integrate parts of our society, then blame they change our society, or hold them to ridiculous standards.
NOLA abandoned to the wind and water was a natural consequence of the thinking behind the words that came out of Imus’ mouth. Calling the black survivors “refugees” and “looters” is too.
We will reap the whirlwind for all of this, the longer we refuse to deal with it. Having a “national conversation” isn’t just about attacking black artists and musicians, not if we’re serious. A “national conversation” would need to talk about redlining, about the systematic destruction of public schools after they were ordered desegregated, about the ruinous drug war fought primarily in poor communities, about our brutal paramilitary police forces, our more brutal prisons, and the sad fact that statistically the fury of both are visited on the poor, the black and the brown compared to the total population.
there is a new theory about what’s killing the bees … cell phones.
I knew I was right to hate those fucking things.
Of course, this is just a theory, and I’m not sure how they’ll test it.
Chicago Dyke talks with Helen Thomas.
hee hee hee — check
this out….
think it’ll catch on?
John Rogers at Kung Fu Monkey has a good piece on humor and power, and just why this time it blew up in Imus’ face (sorry I’m still so obsessed by this, but you know me and my fascination with words and how people use them):
then a really good description of why different political viewpoints find different people funny.
Well, most of America hates a bully. Many on the right love them, but the point holds.
Re: Yearly Kos: I’ll be sending out an advisory to all reporters and bloggers covering the event. I’ll suggest a special focus on the lack of attention to – indeed, outright dismissal of – feminism and women’s issues on DK and at Yearly Kos.
As I’ve said repeatedly: NOT ONE FRONT PAGER, male or female, attended the feminism panel at the last YK. Nor did any of them EVEN MENTION IT.
If Kos is smart, he’ll put a band-aid on this wound by creating a YK panel on women and feminism in Dem politics, and participating in it himself – pretending that he gives a shit.
If he’s not smart, he’ll ignore the issues and encourage his minions to do the same.
My bet is on the latter.
Speaking of faux-feminist minions: where has Meteor Blades been during the recent fracas?
Today is the first day of the We Are Not Buying It Campaign. Got my cash from the credit union yesterday. The goal is to avoid using credit or debit cards for the week and to stay away from as many large corp businesses as possible. We’ll see how it goes. Unlike a lot of folks, I’m privileged to not work one weekday, so it’s mostly a matter of pacing myself if I need to get back to the credit union for extra cash.
A Re-Post of the Links that discuss alternatives to buying from Big Biz. Just in case anyone’s interested. If you can’t do everything, you can still do something.
Also, if you can’t boycott or refuse paying your taxes there’s always a modest gesture this one. Wouldn’t today be an appropriate day to sign up ?
Cheers.
Bah. Lost a post with two links to the spam-eater. It thinks I’m hawking diet pills or something.
PS. All of you in the Marisacattery are welcome to contribute to the creation of this press advisory. I plan to send it out in June.
Also seems appropriate for the first day of WNBI, and it being almost Tax Day and Earth Day and, etc…
Joshua Frank at Brickburner and :
Broken Link. Feh.
One more time.
Now coffee. Fair trade, of course…
Wow Madman, that Kung Fu Monkey piece is the commentary I’ve run across yet. I think the idea that Imus’s transgression was considered so abhorrent because he had bullied the “small guy” is correct. But why he tripped that “hardwired circuit” in American psyche so spectacularly recently leaves me wondering if somebody(ies) higher up the food chain made sure this story progressed…Gwen Ifill opined on Timmeh’s MtP it was because their are balck execs at CBS and NBC that complained, but that seems like more smokescreen to me…
The Washington Post identifies the photo at the top your story as Jacob Washbourne, the individual quoted as saying “I want to kill somebody today.”
The link below shows photos of Washbourne and three others involved.
Click to access DC_WP.pdf
Yet another reason why Chavez should invest more effort into training more bodygaurds and counter-assasination measures:
Business Week
Hat tip to Jeff Wells of RI for the link
Someone needs to tell Prince Markos that when you’ve dug yourself into a hole, stop digging.
Who does he think this insightful diary is going to convince?
The Wall: A Sunday morning story
Mr. Deity and the Seed …. the tenth ep is out!
released two from Spam (Madman and ms xeno) and a couple from Moderation, SV and “Jay”
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Jay
Thanks for the heads up on the photo. If you clicked on the IS article you’ll see I went with their identification.
Will check out the pdf you link to after I reboot. Thanks..
Mysogyny: alive and well at dkos
NO ratings, you’ll notice.
Which part of “uttering death threats” (which he calls “stupid shit” while he once again shows his ignorance of the Sierra situation which involved bloggers and commenters) is a crime doesn’t he get?
And who the hell is saying that a blogger code of conduct would stop those threats? Nice strawman. Yet there are his predicatble sycophants fawning all over the new words of their favourite political celebrity.
“That’s all”, all right. That’s all they’re going to get out of him on this issue because he needs to actually buy a clue in order to figure out what people are criticizing him for and his trips to the Clue Store are very rare indeed.
The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die singly far from home. – Madman, quote from an article.
ugh I felt quite a bit of stress at that. Millions of honey bees possibly dying and disintegrating far from home.. alone.
MOre allegories, perhaps, that we are avoiding. Listen up.
brinn
Salut honey… she lives! How are you??
Mcat–does Safeway deliver clues?
their are balck execs at CBS and NBC that complained, but that seems like more smokescreen to me…
-Tuston
Johnson of BET reiterated that nearly to death. And that GE is a great and noble company and that those complaining from the inside wanted the Great and Noble Company to do what G&N cos do… etc..
He is so steeped in corporatese. One reason a few posts back I linked to his back and forth on hardball, think it was.
One thing, Imus did not apologise for days. That created problems.. as the big swing with the bullshitters is apologise — and Imus oftne does immediately or will tell the worst on his set “that was wrong”, thus into the escape hatch fast—
He picked on a college sports team..
and it sure seems to me that Corzine was involved. In more than a beltless crash.
And he revealed what an unhinged loose crow bar he is on the Sharpton show. He really slipped into some strange modes.
Plus Sharpton is more and more a really fucked “gate keeper”… perhaps a bit of dance to let the overseer push the elderly off the cliff.
Really, only the team members and their coach are lookin’ good to me in this…imo
Blogmaid Cleanup in Aisle 9!
Excuse me, what was that about the Pie Wars? Mcjoan thinks that something positive came out of the Pie Wars? That somehow they helped political blogs get to be “legions ahead” (whatever that means) of techie blogs in terms of how women are treated? Hmm. I’m not sure what she has in mind.
Oh please. Just…. please.
miss devore..
well they claim they now deliver “lifestyles”…
LOL
I will settle for Fancy Feast on sale this week. So even tho not in need, stocking up … her favorite and at 19 and blind she should have her fav.
#29, catnip – there are ratings now: Miss Blue likes the post.
She must be another one of the Kos crew who don’t like “wymynysm”.
I will settle for Fancy Feast on sale this week. So even tho not in need, stocking up … her favorite and at 19 and blind she should have her fav.
Yikes! Prepare for attack!
SV
Poor mcjoan.
Lost her patron from the pages. After she took a paying job (does that come with benes?, retirement? 401 K?) and now…
I am sure DHinMI will recommend a booster on her distemper shot. (his comment that she could be elevated to the FP as she had had her distemper shot – she swallowed that and made a joke of it.)
The porn comments that used my name and talked of rape til you are “paralysed” and that it is a turn on, all too likely came from Koswhack(s).
Not evolved I would say.
oh and lets not forget louisianagirl / pointecoupeedemocrat who seems to be angling for a BLue Louisiana 180 buck sponsorship with Kos. He seems to like Daily Kingfisher.
Calling out an operative. Known to the King Koswhack. that is my guess.
oow at comment 25
ugh. Now I have to go read what Lindsay (I guess he means Breyerstein) wrote.
Handmaiden in this case – and not the first time. Check out her tags at Flickr… (I landed there by accident once in a search, did not keep the link, think her Flickr page is her name not her blog name)… practically palace photog to Kos. Amsterdam alum as well.
Very much on the Treats and Sweets rez.
Y’all will luv Annalize5’s ‘deja vu all over again’ comment in kos’ latest arrogant assholish ‘Blogging and Threats’ diary, that tossed the classic utterences from “bitch cunt whore” Delaware Dem’s GBCW diary back in kos’ face:
Too Bad Annalize5 did not also add Kos’s advice given to DD at the time in that GBCW diary, to (tut-tut no big deal) just invent himself a new handle and come back to Dkos under the new alias (now reincarnated as Lucius Vorensus)
That would have really driven home the point that the misogynistic and haughty dismissive attitudes are flowing right from the top of Dkos.
and here it is:
could you all stop being interesting and funny? it’s making me procrastinate on vacuuming.
hiyya there mcat — never been better, thanks for asking!! 😉
Don’t have lots to say these days — have stopped posting almost everywhere (intermittent at best on the places I do pop in and out of), but I read and laugh….almost daily!
Just looked in at BMT:
Well jsut for the record he tried. But I can guess who responded. And who will ignore. I would bet dollars to donuts that Atrios responded.
And got the responses he got. Clue: wake up to what so called Liberal BlogSnottery is: A BUSINESS.
They ain’t screwing iwth the model. Nor the man.
And don’t forget several comments at BMT outlined at the response at Dkos (kos and fellow whacks) is that they don’t “know” KS.
Kitty Genovese anyone? It has to be your mother? Sister?
what fucking bullshit. Tho an accurate take on fucked not liberal Blagsnottery and the tied in.
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Not unrelated. In Paparazzi Martin linked to a post of mine from September… he used the link to make it look like it led to a post of mine about how Dodd ditched his site (a half hour and no follow up from the aide at hand)… Nooo.
It was a post of mine Tide Pools. Nothing to do with Dodd.
HOWEVER when I read it over last night it was really interesting. On how Nyhan of Spinsanity lost his place at TAPPED (their Horse’s MOuth blog on media) for calling out Atrios (well tchnically he was told to focus on conservatives following a post of his I link to). The post got (iirc) over 400 comments. Quite a lot for an increasingly boring place …
Here is the link to Tide Pools.
about half way down for the Nyhan commentary.. at “Update Thursday 11:50 am” I spent quite a bit of time on a couple of firings of people who did not toe the party line, the BLogHero lines.
(Before you get to Nyhan I talk, with links and comments from her thread, about how Maha of Mahablog dealt with issues of race and racism at her blog, she was present at the NO Diversity Luncheon, Day Trippers go to Harlem and land on Big WHitey, that would be Bill).
I am sure all of that was lost on Martin who sought only diversion. And is part of the Philly SPillies as I call them.
nightshade gets out her whisk(er)broom for more clean-up. Denial is your friend, kitty!
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someone says “where is the fucking burka when you need it” or “shut your fucking pie hole”, it is not about envy. I would say it is outrage.
by nicodk on Sun Apr 15, 2007 at 11:00:05 AM PDT
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Huh? (0 / 0)
Now I know Markos never said that, so just who are you referring to? This is an inflammatory comment — and I don’t see how it has anything to do with Markos or this site.
by Nightprowlkitty on Sun Apr 15, 2007 at 11:24:06 AM PDT
ooo brinn
Hey hey: survive the BlogSnots and live to talk. 😉
but I read and laugh….almost daily!
Well that’s what it’s all about. Beats banging your head against the wall! 😉
#41. You have bags now. You must vacuum! BEGONE! (I lost my wand. I think I already packed it in a box somewhere. Darn. It would have come in handy for some of the wymynysm stuff I have to get done today too.)
Miss Blue: Defender of the Kos
I wonder if she wears her Wonder Woman outfit with the matching dkos lanyard while she types.
Whew ! Thanks for getting me out of stir, Mcat.
That set of Co-op America links WNBI provides is really a treasure. I’m thinking that I might pick just one a day for the coming week and post about it. Maybe scan some more collages, too. I am quite the foolish optimist this sunny Sunday, no ?
(cough)
Oh, and a small gift for MissD. If/when she shows up. The Negro Problem does its brilliant cover of “MacArthur Park.” Track No. 10, if you have Windows Media or Real Player.
Kos is really getting his ass handed to him in that thread.
tbrucegodfrey is on fire:
Exactly right. I would add: a college freshman Young Republican.
I also read and laugh daily. (waves at everyone)
I just ran across this:
Link to DD/LV diary
Apparently LV is on the first of 12 steps in Bullies Anonymous.
Martin oops Booman has shown him the light! What a joke. Being a bully is just a tool in his toolbox that he will pull back out when it suits him. Still, he make some interesting admissions. Or at least I think so. Of course, obvious to anyone with viperish leanings. He’ll probably delete it at some point.
The first commenter accidentionally calls him Luscious. LOL
Annalize5 brings up she who shall not be named while this kos apologist scribbles:
Another member of the cuntbitchwhore slur fan club.
ooh thanks–“someone left the crack out in the rain”!!
what a scream.
Not a cult… a religion. Honor the elected and those who fellate them. They are above common decency. Lie down and be fucked over… LOL.
LOL… You know for all of 2006 I had no idea I was talked aobut over there, as Sabrina Ballerina put it, as Tokyo Rose.
They are bunkered and waiting, is my take.
(and sorry I don’t google myself, tho I see the stats on numbers of “Marisacat” googles that lead to :hits:… so someone does)
Welcome to Miss Laura’s Alternative Universe!
LOL. Stuff it all down the Memory Hole….
survival, yes, but more than that — fucking *thriving* am I — no more energies wasted investing in bullshit…I am so DONE. I like here because 97% of you broach none, from any quarter, at any time, and you won’t get all pissy at me because I am prone to express my anger in ways “not nice” — fuck that fucking bullshit and the bull it rode in in….
catnip, madman, missD (and of course, mcat) — xoxoxoxo
the rest of you: xoxo
heh. 😉
Oh Kagro X is in my opinion diversion. Old friend, or whatever operatives call one antoher as he has been a Dem Party operative with DH.
It has always reminded me of how Armando was allowed to do diaries critical of the war during the 2004 campaign (don’t forget that very fucked salute at the convention). Those of us utterly opposed to the war (fewer than Kos/whacks pretended) would go in there to comment.
A big fucking JOKE.
Yes Kagro, a big breakthru on the FP.
Seems more appropriate than ever, eh, MissD.
Stew also has several solo discs (technically though Heidi Rodewald and many other NP members are still involved) that are worth a listen.
I think that “Giselle” off The Naked Dutch Painter is more or less a profile of the prominent Kosenforcers’ Dream Woman. Who they routinely confuse our own puppet mistress with. Great stuff.
Is it Comedy Sunday over there or what? Geez. I’m not going to get any packing done at this rate:
Luscious is hilarious. “I know I have been an asshole.” wow, that was some journey to self-discovery.
the toxic blog–how silly–I’ve never enjoyed blogging more than here or the general “VAGosphere” (and skippy did not make that up; I did.
“fight for change” = KA-CHINNNG !!
The link I left to Voters For Peace up top has a mere 170,000 signers. I’m guessing that none of them are Kozzies. Not merely because they are wedded en masse to the DP like glue to paper. But because unless there’s bags of money involved their feeble brains simply can’t comprehend the word “change.” Nice that they can crack dictionaries, but I don’t think they do it often enough.
The DP treats them like shit and they beg for more and pony up. Kos treats them like shit and they beg for more. Anyone still wonder why some of us find non-voters and perhaps the occasional Anarchist more fun to hang out with– certainly more worthy of respect ?
Whichever schmuck said this is the final resting place of the damned needs to go look in a mirror. Kos works day and night to help the DP be the final resting place for activism and liberation– and his fans THANK the little shitheel for it. I don’t get it. Saw his stoopid “kick the donkey” ad, read one or two of his pathetic columns. Saw his utterly uncharismatic and uninteresting TV pitching. He is not magnetic, nor thoughtful, nor articulate, nor even handsome. The mystique eludes me as much now as it did four or five years ago. Just another case of reverse-meritocracy. 24/7.
Steven D’s x-post of his call out to A-Listers got an enormous response at MLW. Not.
Posted around 8 pm last evening and all of… 7 comments, 3 of which are Steven D himself.
Revisionist fucking history
Funny how ML’s arguments are identical to Dana Houle’s.
She’s been more than inoculated, she sounds like a clone.
ms xeno
his numbers have been falling, with some peaks but then more falls, since September 2005.
But he is the “cue” for media to talk about “The Liberal Blogoshere”.
His top ads with just an intermittent check the past few weeks (I read more of Kos since Jason Melrath sent thousands here than I had in the previous 8 or 10 months) indicates the top spots often go begging.
His is not a growing enterprise.
He does really badly out in public, you can read thru the lines of interviews and actually SEE it on TV (Watching Jake Tapper last summer and reading the expanded interview was a scream!) they laugh at him in MSM.
After all they know a con. And for the party he is a tool
One that with big big money rolling to the Dem Party this season, will come up, as he has before, looking like not such a great bundler. And cash to the party is all that counts.
I imagine he is just smart enough to worry. But then he surrounds himself with yes people, so he probably calls one or two up or emails a storm and feels better.
On to Chicago, get lanyard.
Misinterpret this….! Verbal violence…
LINK TO COMMENTS
by Annalize5 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 at 12:34:06 PM CDT
Hilarity ensues . . . . .
hey Brinn, welcome to the nest of vipers! Fangs are available to your right (there, next to the portraiture of moon-faced party operatives and just above the disgarded bad “erotica”) and you can load up on venom back at the bar. Just be careful when you put your drink down: Miss D is probably standing up there doing that weird combo impersonation of Coyote Girl crossed w/ Brecht caberet singer belting out Bacharach tunes. It’s quite wonderful in a dadaist sort of way.
Oh, and if you prefer your refreshments to be of the herbal or fungal variety, Tuston is around somewhere. Look for the hair and tiedye.
gee I see NOnpartisan bellied up twice to give DD a big wet one.
LOL.
I still say the Boyz need to get a room, so very badly.
Nice Motel 8 in Philly environs.
Gonzo has released his opening statement for his hearing Tuesday.
It boils down to … “what we did was legal and right, but I’m sorry anyway. Oh, and it wasn’t me anyway. It was Meirs & Sampson. Oh, and I’m sorry, but I’m being perfectly honest now, except when I’ve mispoken. Thank you.”
It’s suc a relief that our chief law enforcement officer has cleared all that up for us, so that Congress can get back to more important business, like re-funding the occupation.
Moiv, let’s hope their re-fund takes as long to make an appearance as my refund takes this year…
[ducks to avoid bottle of Venom Ale thrown by Madman.]
On to Chicago, get lanyard.
Oh, Mcat. I know neither the mainstream media nor the DP bigwigs are all that impressed with Kos. I just remain puzzled as to why so many of the groundlings still are, or ever were.
Hell, Peter Beinart is also a shallow twit with his head firmly up his jingoistic ass, but at least he’s good looking in an J. Crew catalogue sort of way…
All hail Gonzales… Bush Family Retainer. Shall they throw a cheap appetiser to the toothless wolves..?
ugh I expect speeches from the dems on the Judiciary. I bet Hillary wants him to testify to Armed Services as well.. 😉 Isn’t Obama on Judiciary?
Film on Monday.
yeah but ms xeno, groundlings falling in number for years.
He’s down to hard core creeps. Which is a type sought for various jobs.
Why does mr xeno stay?
I bet he could post pretty happily at TPM for instance. Believe me it is way too centrist at times but there are VERY good commenters there.. it functions as a useful online newsservice — and the bully game is largely absent. I have seen bullies from Kos try to graft on (Petey for one, and even Kagro X tried to bolster him, briefly) but thye jsut get no traction.
sorry about that ms_x, Miss D was bringing down her stilletto on the downbeat during a very ethusiastic “I say a little prayer for you” and I had to get out of the way quickly … the bottle slipped. Who knew a nest of vipers could be so dangerous.
Why does mr xeno stay?
😦
I have asked him numerous times, and have yet to get an answer. I know that he has checked out TPM, but don’t know if he comments there. And it really is bugging me right now in a big way, given Kos rudeness and ignorance to KS. IRL, mr_xeno does not suffer bullies gladly or believe me, I wouldn’t have asked him to be mr_xeno. He works on cop brutality cases with other NLG types. In one of the more infamous cases, they got their clients quite a bit of money after a protracted fight with the city(– in which one of the more locally famous activists, a creep of the first order himself, but that’s another story) walked out in the middle;Ego problems). And, yeah, I know lawyers aren’t too popular in these parts but he only represents individual bankruptcy cases, not corporations trying to duck damages in lawsuits and the like.
Some people just have a higher threshhold for cognitive dissonance than others. It knaws at me like hell when I let it. There are just so many of them and at one time they knew better. But they got beaten down by the hatred of other Dems after the split in ’00. So much protracted nastiness from the “deep thinkers” at the Nation and the like. Parroted by haters on the ground who had to blame someone. So much blame, and probably material punishments, too (as Cockburn speculated) that continue to this day.
I fucking hate it. And I will not turn away from what I learned in ’00. Even if I’m the last one left. Fuck it.
Now Steven D explains to Kos Defenders.
OK Official piss in the wind.
Plus:
has he noticed the long trail of two logos for Advertising Liberally running right beside what he is writing. WIth barely progressive “headlines” from “dembloggers” in between????
Do catch up on (click click) on “JOhn and Teresa Heinz-Kerry with O Reilly” (well they want the sales his show can generate for some, Low on Cash John and TH-K????).
Seriously.
None of them :gets it:. Not really. They are tied to kos/whacks/Bowers/Jerome/Advertising Liberally/Drinking Liberally/…
but not BEING LIBERAL.
This is SO lame:
Help what? The woods are full of knuckledraggers who have daughters.
Oh, yeah. I did cop to my little attempted reconciliation via MoveOn in ’02. But that won’t happen again. I’ll set my money on fire with a blowtorch first. :p
See, Madman. It takes a real man to admit to a woman that he messed up. Perhaps there are evesdropping Kozzies who will haul this valuable lesson back to their lair. Anything is statistically possible.
😉
Hey, sv. I think we should have our own version of Drinking Liberally. Only it’ll be a drinking game in which we slam back a shot every time one of these caveman apologist fuckheads says something like mcjoan’s crap or “of COURSE I’m a FEMINIST ! My MOTHER’S a WOMAN, after all ! Harrumph !!”
Hilarity ensues . . . . .
The guy with the wrench fantasy wasn’t funny. He’s a sick little fuck and my, I’ll bet he got a little stiffy writing that one in a public forum.
We LAUGHED at Jason. We laughed at him on an obscure blog and we laughed at someone who has been savagely rude and dishonest to, I dare say, most of the posters here and for years. I used to plead with Jason to stop threatening to beat people up for God’s sake.
None of those idiots ever intervened and most of them joined in or enabled the bullying and the lies. Including Martin and Meteor Blades and emsock. And don’t forget that icon of loving kindness Pastor Damning and his less than charming wife.
If these are the people who represent the liberal blogoshpere it would be a public service to destroy it.
they didn’t listen to me when I was hanging around, when I was trying to warn them about what Schumer and Emmanuel were up to, or when I tried to get the men to understand that their REACTION to people’s complaints about pie were more of a problem than the damned ad … no reason for them to start now.
Exactly, we are not observing some big Epiphany.
I repeat observe how vewy qwiet at MLW. I call that the flip side of Martin’s lamentation yesterday.
Both are gaming this.
Steven is yes, very upset, but lordy do catch on.
not a surprise:
Never fear, Madman. When it all comes falling down around them, they will find a way to blame the knee-jerk feminists, I’m sure. Personally I’d wear the Kos-wrecker badge with pride even though I’d know that A) Their scapegoating will be bullshit and B) Never posted there.
Sort of like how I’d be proud to believe my vote in 2000 delivered what would eventually be the wound that made the gangrene that would finish off the Donkey at long last. Even though I know in my heart that that’s bullshit. 😉
Mcat, if you’re looking for more pollinators to add to your list, here’s a good one:
Five Before Midnight
I’ve known her since before there were really blogs, all through the Ms. boards collapse, etc. A fine writer. Gets in the trenches and stays there over stuff that would have me whimpering in a corner for days. She covers the Inland Empire mostly, which almost makes you neighbors. 😉
Oh, and I couldn’t find my Chicago Lanyard, but I did find Goin’ To Chicago, Newport 1962. Count Basie, Joe Williams AND Jimmy Rushing. How lucky can a woman get ?
LOL.
hmmm. NO I don’t think so.
I don’t like people in general, so steven is wrong as far as where I am coming from. I especially don’t like liars, conmen and ward-heelers … (well, except for Eddie Izzard), so once I got it through my thick head that that was exactly what kos and his buddies were, what little regard I had was gone.
Hey Madman,
Thanks a lot. Creek Running North is a great read and one I shall return to frequently. It’s such a relief to discover that lots of other people get it
Just got the vibe that we should send this abducted BBC reporter, Alan Johnston, all our love and positive energy, and our expectations to see him safe and sound again.
As he said here, in an article he wrote before his disappearance:
Scottish humor.
Please focus on him and do what you can.
I hate that men like Marcos and Lucious Vagina and what those men did to Ms. Sierra makes women feel like this.
#86. Most excellent. rofl
#87. kos, a “uniter”? Like Bush, maybe.
Emotions? This isn’t about “emotions”?
Big sale at Teh Clue Storez, Steven. Stock up now.
yvw colleen. I love stumbling across a really great insightful writer online, and then sharing them w/ others. It’s one of the best thing about teh internets.
so I’m watching the lacrosse players on 60 Minutes. While I’m sorry for what they went through, I can’t help but think “welcome to the world of THOUSANDS of poor men, black men, brown men, red men, po’ white trash men.”
I wonder if it crosses their mind that people face out-of-control DAs EVERYDAY, yet they can’t afford high-priced lawyers, they don’t have connected parents, that every day our “justice” system grinds up people and spits them out.
I wonder if they will become activists for justice? Somehow, I doubt it.
Dave Marsh talks about hypocritical rich black celebrities, rap and the racist history of Rudy Guiliani.
what, lynching is worse than bling and “Back that thing up?” Who knew? Anyway, he continues to outline some of the reasons I despise “Americas Mayor”.
Oh, fuck you, Dave Marsh. Calling Oprah a “harridan” is just as bad as Imus’ bullshit. And if you can’t figure out how to use a fucking search engine, you can just kiss my fat White feminist ass.
Women’s Team To Appear On Oprah’s Show On Thursday
The Rolling Stone crowd is as much a nest of hypocritical wankers as DK could ever hope to be. Fuck ’em sideways.
Thanks, Madman, for the Dave Marsh link. I’ve always liked his rock commentary and he kicks ass here.
It’s interesting that the most intelligent and hard-hitting critiques of our current administration are coming from the music writers and the arts writers, e.g., Frank Rich.
It’s hard to keep your inspiration tuned in when there’s so much cluelessness floating in the aether. Here sits one man gnashing his teeth at the idiocy being displayed by his fellow XY recipients. What’s a guy to do? They’ve devolved beyond the caveman and are starting to recolonize the trees…
…which might just be about to burst into flames
Kevin
Oprah has a long history of attacking musicians and lyricists. She’s a censor at heart, despite her book club, ALWAYS eager to lecture and chide youth, ESPECIALLY black youth, for not being hardworking or virtuous or “decent” enough.
I can’t stand her and her cultish following, especially in the last ten years or so. I especially despise what she said recently on her PR run promoting her little school in South Africa:
One of my dearest friends teaches in inner city Chicago, english and history. She doesn’t have current books. She can’t get materials. Sometimes at the beginning of the year she doesn’t have enough desks. There are no teachers guides for the books. No grading guides for the mandated tests. Her kids, even the “advanced placement” ones, have never, NEVER in their lives had adequate facilities, adequate materials. They live in a racist city which LOVES to target the black community. All of her kids know someone their age who died violently.
Oprah
blames
THEM.
Fuck Oprah. “Harridan” is too kind a word.
Madman, it was a mistake to watch Shifty Minutes. Don’t watch TV. Seriously! It’s a BAD thing.
Kos apologists in short:
“Kos doesn’t hate women… he just doesn’t like them.
Hey Kevin, we’re here and we’re listening to you. What can we do to help your inspiration to get tuned in?
Madman, my point is not that Oprah is a saint. My point is that Marsh is a supposedly legitimate journalist who A) Can’t use a fucking search engine apparently and B) Used a gender-based slur to attack Imus for using a gender-based slur.
I am not a fan of everything Counterpunch does, though I do like them. Often their music-related stuff is some of the most retrograde writing they have. Five million volumes drooling about Bob Dylan and barely anything to say about women artists, much less artists under fifty. It drives me crazy.
If Marsh wants to try putting out a fire with gasoline, that’s his own affair. I still think it’s hackery on his part.
I consider Oprah a big big problem. She and Steadman both are quite conservative. happy to slam and often have poor to little to no good information.
I hve posted on her twice, once on NO (really really bad when she went down there and hung with Nagin and the Chief of Police, a real asshole) her show was loaded with lies and inaccuracies, things that served the white world (will find the link) and once on Frey. Frey was a loon, a fabricator and a marketer’s tool (Mrs Gay Talese) but you would have thought he had killed people. Richard Cohen was on stage and weighed in. What a pair of fakes RC and Oprah were. And of course Mrs GT and Frey. All the same.
Frey’s sins were far greater than George Bush. You would think…
I rarely watch her but geeesh. Bad information and wrong emphasis… and on US black school children she was HORRENDOUS. Throw her on the heap with Cosby.
I rather suspect there will be a trail of various falling out and scandal with her current love affair with black school girls in SA… if I recall what I have read there are already problems. And her dictate is, come get your girl if you don’t like it.
Gee.
catnip’s new one is great.
Unfortunately sv, I am parked A LOT in front of the glass teat. Oops, “Amazing Race” just started! Go Oswald and Danny!
busy day–of the moving furniture variety and arguing with my brother about operating systems.
the Vietnamese who run the store below are having a huge barbecue which they have invited me to. I asked what they where barbecuing–chicken? then the proprietor also pointed out the oysters and scampi. I must return shortly!
the vietnamese know how to eat–they are like the italians of asia.
“Harridan” discounts everything else in that piece. I’m sorry, but a scolding (even vicious) old woman describes her schtick pretty well. She’s a scold. She pushes fake new age hokum on her cult. She is a relentless flack for consumerism, LOVES to push the fake narrative that people should be able to “bootstrap” themselves out of their circumstances, constantly pushing the lie that the obstacles in people’s way, placed there by our corrupt corporations and the gov’t they own, are not really obstacles.
I despise Oprah. She’s a huckster, a snake-oil salesman, a faux humanist peddling empty nostrums.
well I dunno.. I used to shake my head when I’d get my NYer back in the 90s and sigh and say ugh that bitch. At Tina Brown.
I was lectured at mediagirl for the red Thai poodle I used for Hillary. She will be doing far far worse to women, has already.
There are words I don’t use.. and I have links to those words being used elsehwere (not the famous cuntbitchwhore, but other words like skank and a few others, lg saying Elise is “a whore who charges for her services”, LOL Meteor Blades: Achtung! honey, get over there and lecture at MLW) but I think it is impossible to be PC all the time. In fact, I know I am not.
I’ll read the Marsh piece, did not yet…
I covered it in #103, Mcat. Again, I am not arguing that Oprah is a saint. Only that Marsh is being pretty damn sloppy and stupid for a supposedly legit reporter. If I punctuated a critique of rap music with a bunch of racial slurs against rap artists, I’m think that would cut the legs from under any legitimate point I was trying to make. If Marsh fancies himself a champion of women (a long shot there, I know), he should reconsider using sexist slurs against them no matter how much grounds he has for disliking them. Plus, in this case, he was wrong to imply that Oprah was snubbing the players. It’s right there in print. She was not.
Madman:
I despise Oprah. She’s a huckster, a snake-oil salesman, a faux humanist peddling empty nostrums.
If Marsh had written that, I wouldn’t have had a problem. If he had checked to see if Oprah was planning to speak about the players, I wouldn’t have had a problem if he wanted to turn a jaundiced eye towards her motivations for doing so. Let it rip.
Men do not get old ? Men do not scold ? C’mon.
Oh Miss D! Go down and eat!!
When my now-husband and I were first together, 20 years ago, we got an apartment in the outer reaches of Brooklyn, owned by elderly Sicilians who lived on the first floor. They were two sisters and a brother. They were very Old World and didn’t speak much English.
One summer day, the brother knocked on my door and offered me a bagful of ripe peaches. When I asked where they came from, he explained to me (by leading me by my hand out of the house and showing me) that he had grown them in the backyard, in an 5-gallon olive-oil can. There was an entire thriving peach tree in an olive-oil can!
But to get to my point: they invited us to their Christmas dinner, and of course we were busy having ours first. Then we went downstairs and joined them, just to be sociable, and we were overwhelmed. Pasta forte!
Oprah’s ok with me if only for promoting “A Fine Balance” by Rohinton Mistry in her book club. I think it is second to only War & Peace, which actually is the greatest novel ever written.
Just starting Dave marsh.. he’s got one thing right. We are NOT having a debate about race in this country (a little one, inside concertina wire, in the margins, maybe) but we ARE having a conversation about commerce.
again, one word discounts the whole piece? We’ve inherited a language that is saturated with sexist terms. As soon as someone uses one, EVERYTHING else is tossed out. Hell, Nietzsche is one of my favorite philosophers, and he was a terrible misogynist. Same goes for Harlan Ellison. The points of Marsh’s piece were that:
– wealthy black celebrities are hypocrites when it comes to attacking culture.
– Rudy rose to power using racism and increased racial tensions in the city when he was mayor, and will plainly use it again as he runs for President.
Marsh is seriously old school, and other than Joni, I can’t remember him ever particularly championing female artists. He worships at the Church of Bob (which a lot of people do, and yes it mystifies me too). Still doesn’t change all the other words in the piece.
Okay, Mcat. That I don’t take issue with. But frankly, I do think it’s different if a woman like the regulars here uses a word like “Bitch” or what-have-you. I don’t question that you support freedom for women, nor moiv, nor sv, nor catnip. We can disagree on issues but that doesn’t make me doubt you. The women on this thread are not Dave Marsh and we did not grow up with male privilege. Just as I can respect Blacks if they feel that there’s a time and place for the N-Word, but I still will not use it– unless I am quoting Richard Wright or something. I don’t believe that it’s my place to use it.
Plenty of men are scolds. That WAS one of Imus’s own underlying themes. He used lots of old time what I call “Irish Bitcher” ways. And by Irish Bitcher I mean men. My father had a streak of it. LOL We would jsut leave the house. It is spasmodic imo and really has a lot to do with personal frustration and unresolved rage.
well I have no reason to use “nigger”.
When Stu Piddy first showed up with his diaries on NO, he was on fire… and he was using it the way a certain class of white people use it, he was representing their language. Most people got it… but after a while it got overbearing.. and AP/Auntie Peachy told him to cool it, it was over done.
Anyway back to marsh.
Yeah, Madman, I do think it taints the whole piece. It makes me wonder at his motives. Just as I often wonder at the motives of men who use such language regardless of their politics. But that’s me. I have been let down about four billion times in this life by supposedly liberal and lefty men. I have earned the right to that distrust, which is not the same as saying that everything Marsh says about everything is wrong.
And I’m sorry to say that men my own age and younger are often misogynists, too. Isn’t Kos in his 30s ? Even if I believed that we can hide behind age in this era, when consciousness raising of all kinds is ours for the taking online, both men have had ample time to learn. They choose not to. Just as Ellison was smart enough to know that only a scumbag asshole gropes a fellow writer in full view of hundreds of fans, he chose to do it anyway. Nobody in their right mind should believe these guys when they play dumb about such shit makes women feel. They know, but they don’t care.
SV
Thanks for the support. But I don’t want to make my writers block your responsibility. There’s really nothing to do, just watch as idiot men get rightly beat down and feel guilty by association. My emotional states aren’t the worlds steadiest anyway. Meds help, and I probably need some therapy but can’t afford it. Given also that my writing talents are more suited to OpEd and Slice o’ Life pieces. It makes watching everyone here pulling data out from the crevices of time and space very humbling.
It might also be good to hear back from the woman who stood me up yesterday. Being able to tell if there was some kind of material problem on her end or if I was played for the fool would go a long way towards clearing my mood. Damned cell phone message systems (and women who won’t call back)
Kevin
I just don’t have the patience or drive to scan through every piece scanning for correct language. I’m sorry it offended you, but I felt the overall worth of what he was saying was good to share, and I still do.
I read The Secret because that’s my New Age bag. It was nothing new to me. It contained tidbits of valuable teachings, but shoddily presented. For example, the idea of Unlimited Abundance is presented in the book as “getting whatever you want”- the world is a catalog and you can pick and choose what you like. Just call up Lands End and ask for whatever you want!
But there’s nothing in the book about Giving.
The original writings that she borrowed from have quite a lot about Giving. Basically, you can’t get anything unless you give.
#115 ms xeno: No, Dave Marsh has the right to use the word “harridan”. It is NOT like “cunt”. So relax.
OK I have gone blind. The Dave Marsh piece in Counterpunch. I didn’t see Oprah mentioned. I had to use “find word” to find the two lines.
hmm I’d say watch her show and see if the Disney model (ABC) is what she runs. The women are interesting enough, the coach is interesting enough it should be about them… and probably time for her to meet some inner city (if they are) black achievers…but my guess half the show will be about black rap. And very mediocre, not informed..
This is what I wrote on her show on NO
As for Marsh, harsh. But I don’t know.. did she say anyting the 4th (the day it happened), 5th, 6th, 7th
or to continue with commerce is what she has to say about this related to the show appearance and she started saying something once a booking was made oR once her booker called the college (I assume that is how it was done)… once the story clarifed.
I don’t know.
Sorry, Marsh may have been harsh and or incorrect but Oprah? Just commerce.
there’s too much real magic in the world for me to spend it on magical thinking, but that works for me. People should find their own way … I just hate when spirituality is packaged as some simple-minded punchcard to happiness, which so much of the American new age is. I’ll stick to reading the original insights, myself.
Well, that’s it then, sv. I’m leaving forever. Or at least long enough to mow the lawn and then get a snack. Damn foodies. [shakes fist]
Mcat – isn’t Bill O’ Reilly a classic Irish Scold/Bitcher?
well if Marsh cannot say “harridan” then I am sure I should drop something.
I just don’t think every single word counts… with the weight of a black ball… and he made good points. On Rudi, on how Dinkins was treated, on Roker (what a joke his comments were) I don’t know Whitlock… so no idea on him.
I just won’t discard an article for a word or even parts I disagree with.
I’d have to stop reading, pretty much.
oh god O reilly is it incarnate. Shrink wrap and send him around. Let there never be another one…
I spent years arriving at home for a visit, when I lived on RUssian Hill and I stop at a side porch where the wine bottles were, grab a bottle and open it before I said “Hello”… because if I could get two glases of Cabernet down Papa there was less Irish Bitcher.
LOL
Whitlock is a black sports writer for the Kansas City Star who’s been trotted out all over CNN to support Imus and go after Sharpton, Jackson and rappers.
btw, I only mention that he’s black because that was the job he was brought on to do for the corporate media: be the “sensible” black to redirect the energy back at the real problem … black people.
Been there, done that.
And even so, struggling through all that crap, my dad was a staunch feminist. He would die before he let anyone say that women were inferior to men. Maybe because he was Protestant.
oops, the last paragraph is me … apparently I didn’t close the blockquote right.
oh the barbeque was great–scampi, oysters and this marinated cut of beef that was delicious. my SIL, who just moved back to town dropped by, and they hired her starting tomorrow (she worked there as a florist under a different owner years ago)
I love vietnamese food … I’m so jealous.
Oh SV mine too.
I still ahve a letter he wrote to me, about some young women working the season at Squaw Valley, I was away at school in the late 60s… about how wonderful they were and too likely to marry schlumpfs who would never appreciate them… not in a sexist way, in an admiring way.. And the differences between men and women. A GREAT letter.
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I’m sorry it offended you…
“Offend” might be too strong, Madman. “Irritated,” maybe. And it’s not a question of “scanning” so much as trying to be an educated consumer, especially of prestigious journalists. Who I expect more of than bloggers, even if I rarely get it.
“rather fight for change”
/\ —- :::should read::::
loose change
also if the vipers put together a bowling team send that annalize5 a bowling shirt. that lady knows how to hurl cites.
drat!
alignment off! i hate it when that happens.
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