What a week……………. [updated] 16 November 2007
Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.trackback
Just caught a snip of “Give em Hell, Harry” in the opening of This Week with Ifill… he was saying,
We cannot let the president continue to destroy the country.
Poor Harry. One more bitch in congress. Those man-tits tied in knots.
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Just a Friday night/weekend thread, if anyone needs a port in the inner tube storms…
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UPDATE, 10:44 pm Saturday…
I elevated this comment of mine from the thread:
oh here is a sad story – and it throws into high, bright contrast what Kos and the other AdLibbers really are when they accept a simple fucking ad, for cash, esp as they do not have to do that, they don’t have to support Chevron:
Mehdi Shahbazi was a man who championed the consumer and listened to his own counsel as he waged a years-long battle against Exxon Oil and then Shell Oil.
The conflicts cost him his eight service stations – from Salinas to San Jose – his home, his health and his life.Shahbazi, 65, died Wednesday at Stanford Hospital due to a fast of more than four months to protest the power of oil companies – and as gas prices approach record highs in California.
At his former Marina station – where two years ago he posted a sign that read “Consumers’ pain is Big Oil’s unearned profit!” – customers have erected a memorial of flowers, cards and signs proclaiming love and appreciation.
Until a court decision last month that gave Shell legal control over his final station, Shahbazi was positive he would prevail, said his nephew, Kaz Ajir of Marina.
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He was kind, wise and generous beyond imagination,” said Jeffrey Cohen, a Salinas physician who met Shahbazi as a patient and remained a friend for 32 years. “I want people to know that he wasn’t crazy.
He used what he felt was the last non-violent method of protest that he could muster. He was expressing what we all feel.”
Mehdi Shahbazi at his Shell station in Marina Aug. 30, 2007. Shahbazi died Wednesday, Nov. 14, 2007 due to a four-month fast to protest the power of oil companies. (Patrick Tehan/Mercury News)
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Marisacat 
Man-tits? What are you doing, trying to conjure up that lunatic David Byron?
LOL… they graze the tops of his Everlast fighting shorts.
melvin, I believe it was Madman in the Marketplace who verbally conjured the image of harry in his satin pink Everlasts, pulled up to his sagging man-tits.
speaking of what a week–was there a better site than OG&P for getting the sf bay oil spill stories?
ugh I think that oil is just going to keep circling around and back.
The CG ditched a presser today. And NBC affliate finally ran a really good montage of the screw-ups… it was excellent.
I have a feeling there is some bitter divisional politics in the Nor Cal, Bay Area pols over this.
Gavin is still saying he so deserved his weekend in Hawai’i but that no one should bitch at him as it was “the worst weekend of his life”
gah. What a bunch.
2,3, harry reid pink Everlast/tit apocrypha!
who knows what and how we will remember when we have gone to the raisin barns. (if we are allowed to grow old)
*** madman bows with a flourish ****
Anybody need bail money? Just Stamp out More.
Which brings up a question… Where the fuck is Hair Club? 😀
3 No this was it in the mamztitosphere for the aggregated spill coverage. BTW, that day was terrible weather up here in the Soviet of Washington, vry high winds. All eyes on the bay and the Strait of Kerch thinking not only could that have been Puget Sound, we’re probably overdue.
All hail Madtits!
Impeachment “Under Active Consideration” – Conyers
Why is it that papers on the other side of the globe cover this, but …
… oh, hell, why am I even asking?
Oh, fuck you Isikoff … “don’t know”?!?!?!
Impeachment “Under Active Consideration” – Conyers
Now might I do it pat, now he is praying;
And now I’ll do’t. And so he goes to heaven;
And so am I revenged. That would be scann’d:
A villain kills my father; and for that,
I, his sole son, do this same villain send
To heaven.
O, this is hire and salary, not revenge.
He took my father grossly, full of bread;
With all his crimes broad blown, as flush as May;
And how his audit stands who knows save heaven?
But in our circumstance and course of thought,
‘Tis heavy with him: and am I then revenged,
To take him in the purging of his soul,
When he is fit and season’d for his passage?
No!
Up, sword; and know thou a more horrid hent:
When he is drunk asleep, or in his rage,
Or in the incestuous pleasure of his bed;
At gaming, swearing, or about some act
That has no relish of salvation in’t;
Then trip him, that his heels may kick at heaven,
And that his soul may be as damn ‘d and black
As hell, whereto it goes. My mother stays:
This physic but prolongs thy sickly days.
Buzzy Tells Waxman He Told Cookie About Joining Blackwater
They just lie … they can’t help themselves.
LOL. More from the Ron Paul Monopoly Money Raid
How the fuck is a guy named NotHaus reached at HOME???
What the fuck is likely to happen to the guy? NotHouse Arrest?
LOL -HairClub, for a minute there I thought ya got busted…😀
LOL -HairClub, for a minute there I thought ya got busted
Hell no. I want Nazis to send me real money not fake money.
To show you just how much of an East Coast suburbanite I am, I have to admit I’ve never heard of all these alternative currency scams.
Jeez the heartland is a weird place.
12 — Laughing through the tears. Who knows any more? Ask Cookie and Buzzy and Condi and Brownie and Turdblossom (? – must have been a real riot at prep school) and Scooter. I think W gets high and finds these people in the phone book.
Although I have to say that this fake money thing strikes me as one of those quasi legal/quasi illegal things people do in the gray zone that the government will wink at for a long time then get around to cracking down on when they finally notice.
It seems that Paul’s followers are paying the price for Paul’s elevated profile. The feds looked up some of what was going on and went “aha”.
Of course had this been Muslims in Detroit and not a bunch of white guys in Idaho they would have long since been at Gitmo with diapers on their heads and water poured down their lungs.
oh someone tell me Bernard is not real. 8)
What a hoot.
BUT I think all campaigns are doing this – a form of legal/illegal cash flow, one sort or thet other.. Just cash, hand over fist, anyway you can.
George Wallace shooter Arthur Bremer has been released from prison.
Apparently, he was immediately offered celebrity blogging and Advance Man positions by a majority of the Democratic Presidential Campaigns.
You guys better pray the writer’s strike ends or I’m gonna keep this up.
16 Local minimart has all sorts of joke phony bills with big dawg and others on the wall. No one is ever prosecuted. How does this fit in with local bucks recognized as worth a certain value? First amendment? Did they claim it was Treasury Dept issu or something? If not, whta is the problem?
Don’t know but Greenwald (being a lawyer) owes us another article on this.
BTW, there are some scary comments from “liberals” at Neiwert’s site to the effect that since Greenwald was Matt Hale’s lawyer, he’s been intimidated into being a spokeperson for neonazis in the form of talking up Ron Paul.
Translation: If you’re the terrorist’s lawyer, you’re with the terrorists.
Brandon Mayfield learned this the hard way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield
And this is from “liberals”.
Forget Newsweek. porn is where the money is still. I want to see some MAMZ-tits!
Forget Newsweek. porn is where the money is still.
How in God’s name can they add any more porn to the internet than it’s already got?
Doesn’t it collapse of its own weight or something after awhile?
I fully admit, the word liberal is gone.
LOL and the joke is on me, I staged a one woman campaign to protect the word for 25 years. Swore at dinner parties I’d put it on my tombstone.
When I heard Jimmy say that Kennedy got “all the liberals” to vote for Anderson and undercut his re-election, I laughed out loud. I had never been one.
I don’t like “progressive”… never did. Mostly I say I am “of the left”.
Seems vague enough.
Hey I’m all for barter, microfinance, etc, but these guys are selling copper coins for a buck. How big are the motherfuckers? The size of Frizbees? Fuckin’ Wall Clocks?
Copper’s $3.20 a pound
http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/
I guess there is always more porn/more porn… and a good place for programmers to hang and get a paycheck. Or so it seems…
23. le sinistre
“Liberal” outside of the United States means “right wing” anyway.
I kind of like Greenwald’s “don’t fucking label me” attitude.
Chavez vs. the King of Spain
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071116/wl_afp/venezuelaspaindiplomacyroyals_071116220433
The populist and virulently anti-American Chavez made his comments during the television interview on the eve of a foreign visit that begins on Saturday
“Virulently anti-American”?
How about those Americans he offered to send cheap gas?
i thought he did send the cheap gas, last winter… and god knows it is all more this year. Or so it seems…………….
while I was at the Marin I-J I see that Republicans in Tiburon Like Obama!
It’s a race to collect Republicans, evangelicals, Nascar Dads and whoever else might be a rightie.
Very sorry! Found this in spam from madman, it was meant for the last thread:
Madman in the Marketplace |
The abortion ship’s doctor
Nov 16, 7:58 PM
and this comment of BHHM was lost in spam, TWICE.. very sorry! link to the comment in the last thread:
LINK
From a BBC report on the 30K draw down (or whatever it is) and the Petraeus testimony in congress.
Oh good luck everybody…
I picked this up frm a comment from a volunteer cleaner, from Zuna Surf:
We’re Tribal all right , Violent- Stone- Age- Tribal. – BHHM
Only worse, in some ways, because our tribes are all-but divorced from any stabilizing tradition or genuine ties. Any serious strain and they’ll shred like tissue paper.
Yeeessshhh!
Uhh, John, you are an elected representative, and a member of the body charged with investigating whether articles of impeachment should be voted on. These other people have no legal standing in this matter, they are merely private citizens, and while their opinions on the matter might be interesting (I’d love to know where Woodward gets the idea that “there’s abundant evidence that it’s a legal war”), they are beside the point.
If you don’t want to do your job, I’m sure there are plenty of people willing to take your place.
Bangladesh cyclone looks worse than Katrina.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_as/bangladesh_cyclone
37-except we actually don’t know the real death tol of Katrina.
Apparnetly Conyers has forgotten about the arrests of people trying to speak with him in his Hill offices.
Rev Yearwood for ne. Cindy Sheehan for another. Wright and McGovern too.
He needs to go home. To bed.
Pfaff in the IHT:
Tony Judt in the NYRoB on Reich’s new book. And again, what a shit Reich is.
LOL, Mirrir Mirror on the wall: who is the kindest governess of all?
35 Madman re Tribalism….
Yes. I’ve been wrestling with this:
Only worse, in some ways, because our tribes are all-but divorced from any stabilizing tradition or genuine ties. Any serious strain and they’ll shred like tissue paper. -Madman
An easy place to see it is online. We could easily hear criticism that any online forum is disingenuous. The prob I see with the DK/DP maladventure is the clear behaviour that is NOT coming from a place grounded in any way of intramural acceptance, tolerance etc. “Big Tent” LOL. Not one to stand up in the winds..Hardly a peaceable tribe, It rewards the opposite in fact. It’s NOT a group of individuals likely to reassess their loyalties based on principles of equality or equanimity at the core. In their instance, The shredding and falling apart is not one of anal retention of online chitty chatters, its a shredding, an abandonement of the very princples they purport to uphold, the principles they claim provide their raison d’etre..
I see tribalism as a virtually inescapable reality, certainly not to the point that equitable aggregation can render exceptionalism as superfluous… I “reality test” on that which has been demonstrably repeated. The Nazis, Theists of all Stripes, and Capitalists of course, are all right there, and then sadistically seize on it.. They follow with incredible sleight of hand , as they use this phenom of tribalism to
— “justify” their intramural legitimacy , and
— the “inevitability” of their ascendancy, and to
— exclude any alternatives for their survival other than
—to “mandate” Dominion, Empire, “New World Order” etc…
……pick your wrapping paper…
[sounds like the Clinton campaign–too easy, ALL guilty..]
This of course is heavily dependent on denial of the inevitably Life Destroying and Planet Killing consequences…
Physically to be sure, in terms of home, life sustaining work, and RL social interaction, we all live in small tribes. Unlike the Clintons, we can not with a straight face send greetings to several hundred thousand of “our closest friends” , or perpetuate lies of “village” while sanctioning ruin, (let’s call it as it is) ..sanctioning RUIN of villages , save their TheoCapitalistic War-waging own….
I am aware of “my” (our) tribe’s fragility, certainly on an Earth ecologically hanging in the balance and the world run-over by many Larger, Armed and War-making Tribes gathered in their Councils. Who hasn’t seen, or at least comprehended from the digitally mediated Smoke Signals, that many of our genuine Brothers and Sisters can be seen being brutally over-run on the horizon? And we’re not talking Blahg Life here…We’re now talking about the “normalcy” of domestic taser electrocution, yet claim “aberation” over the genital electrodes applied at Abu Ghraib and the CIA Gulags.. We now see a Gangster , Militia, and Military Meta Tribe to the degree that Blackater’s Commercial Army has emerged. Alarmingly, it is as effectively lethal, strategically positioned, and as well defended as any Nation State with an ability to summon Hellfire missles followed by tanks and combat infantry rolling into civilian neighborhoods. Surreally, Their small arms fire is but a bit of it….
So Who will continue to be fooled by the parade of false entreaties?. …Aren’t we past the promises of Missionaries and the Traders.? Or making them?
Only those engaged in gouging their own eyes out now, can’t see beyond the calculated use of “diversity” with the phoney indigenous outreach of Elephantine Emissaries and the Horsemen riding on jackasses. They are Armed to the teeth. They come to Plunder. Only Mechanized Life and Death are assured upon accepting the trinkets of their offer.
Don’t take less in the Devil’s bargain, but work less, live on less, denying profit accrual where possible off your back….
Refuse. Resist.
A real tribalism would be an improvement over atomization. Momentarily shared cheering and jeering does not a tribe make.
I can dream of reintegration with the world, even make it happen to a small degree – for me – and at least not let them steal my life. But what larger good does it do in a world hellbent on throwing itself under the juggernaut?
Actually the slightest perceived threat to comfort is where the cheaply made and sold social fabric tears. Till death do us part four bed, fam room with a garage gives way real quick when thoughtlessly running on the wheel …I should qualify that it’s hardly an abandonment of principles i.e egalitarianism if you really weren’t coming from there to begin with.
I agree melvin. I’d say good doesnt have to be large when we’re talking about survival. And We are.
Also mcat 42
LOL. Novak of all people as the conduit for Hill’s Whispering campaign about Obama…Kinda just fits….
I’ve said a lot recently that Obama’s her Boy, in the sense that the orhanage and adoption agency is all populated by her people.
She’s about to leave baby on the Doorstep, and certainly not about to reunite later for an Obamanable Coupling later on in the big white house with the fence. Wouldn’t be prudent.
From Monkey Boy to Otto Von Bismarck in 12 Easy Months: How George W. Bush Pacified Iraq Conquered the Democratic Party and Guaranteed His Place in History
http://www.rogouski.com/2007/11/from-monkey-boy-to-otto-von-bi.html
BHHM
Glen Ford and Bruce Dixon at BAR have maintained, from the get go of this season, that she plans Obama for Numero Due.
Now they are much close to Chicago politics (fo which I know very little) and have interacted with obama for years.
I have a hard time seeing it, but maybe if she adequately kneecaps him, then he IS acceptable.
She seems to be working on it.
I am reminded that the Clintons put about lies about Jerry Brown in 92, lies that he is still angry about and spent almsot two years pinning down in every way that it was lies. it had to do wtih a house of his in the canyons, drug use and emplying State Troopers.
Frankly think I am hearing a Bill Clinton reality superimposed on the ex seminarian.
I am sick to death of them all. Even obama and his “uhs'” and pauses is working his way to those small things being sins.
what FUCK UPS.
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melvin
every time we list “tribalism” as a sin of the MEeners… I cry inside: I will take some of that!
Godammit…
the Clintons are vindictive, pure and simple.
Military Cloning Project
Why not just come out and Say Cheney???
Go Democrats! Big changes are right around the corner! Promise!
suicide by president.
Not jsut the mil and its officer class, not just the shreds of the once mighty Democratic party, not just the government institutions and agencies — BUT THE NATION.
Jesus I hear PANIC in this leak,
A Major Story Breaking on the FP of the NYT
A three pager on the web…
a mix of Declassification , Fear, Rationale for Intervention, and CYA….
U.S. Secretly Aids Pakistan in Guarding Nuclear Arms
By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: November 18, 2007
Amanda Marcotte on Glenn Greenwald
http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/15/do-it-to-stop-war-then/
Paul’s supporters are a weird mix of white supremacists, kooks who use the misleading label “libertarian”, and naive people who like the idea of legalizing weed and stopping the war. This is what we need to happen with these three groups: The first needs to be completely marginalized, without any influence at all over major party candidates. The second isn’t going anywhere, but they’re really just Republicans with particularly acute masculine anxiety issues and will probably vote for Giuliani anyway. The third need to sack up, grow a brain and vote for the Democrats
hmm just last night on This Week with Gwen Ifill, Sanger claimed we do not know WHERE the nuclear installations are…
meanwhile Pervez gets pedicures and manicures… and Sanger acted like we had no leverage to demand more.
But again like Katrina… I say this is what we want.
The spill, thirty beaches closed, volunteers turned away: that is what they WANT.
A terrible chaotic war that threatens nuclear accidnts and full on regional war: that is what they want.
A dismissive dictator wtih nukes: that is what they want.
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calling ms xeno:
we need a good trashing of marcotte. Nobody does it like ms xeno.
so sick of the Dem party bitches.
so sick of the Dem party bitches.
If Greenwald were talking up Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader the vitriol against him would be even worse.
Ron Paul’s Nazi supporters let Neiwert and Marcotte think they’re being noble anti-fascist warriors, Tom Hanks storming the beach at Normandy.
What they’re really worried about are people bolting the dems over the war.
What they’re really worried about are people bolting the dems over the war. — HC
absolutely, this is at the core of everything.
They are desperate that people should vote for them.
And I keep saying, many/most will. If they keep the illusion going that voting ‘Dem” means something and thus can keep the shredded cocoon of denial up… they will do it.
SOme will fall away, but too few.
And of course GG will not be doing either of thses things:
If Greenwald were talking up Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader the vitriol against him would be even worse. ———- HC
absolutely, this is at the core of everything.
And if you vote for a progressive leftist on a third party ticket you deserve to get your head busted as much as a Nazi does.
The deputy mayor of New Paltz NY (who’s a native American and a Green) said she got hundreds of death threats from Democrats after 2000, HUNDREDS.
Greenwald’s just an honest civil libertarian.
The attacks on him are either stupid like “he’s too young so he doesn’t understand” (uh, he’s 38) or out and out authoritarian (“he was Matt Hale’s lawyer so the Nazis have something on him and we can’t trust him”).
And of course GG will not be doing either of thses things:
He actually hates Giuliani so much he’ll be talking up Hillary before long and Amanda Marcotte will forgive him.
ugh I am NOT a GG fan. But for reasons other than the Dem party bullshit.
I am wary of expats. It is not a great community on the whole.
So many disturbing facets here….
What the fuck is going on here…
Setting up the Brush off of Nuke Treaties?
CYA pending a loose nuke or false flag op of the same?
Fuck the Tin Foil charge, and the idiots who preclude such a possibility out of hand…
We are in a Criminal global, and undeclared War for Fossil Feuls …
I don’t put anything past Cheney…
This characterization is almost visibly embossed by the Administration… there’s gotta be an interesting backstory to this involving the Spooks, their Lawyers and the White House holding a very coercive leash on the Times….
I am wary of expats. It is not a great community on the whole.
Do you think the fact that he *was* Matt Hale’s lawyer might have something to do with it?
Terrorists can often turn on their lawyers, especially Nazis on gay Jewish ones.
But I doubt any of Matt Hale’s crew could find their way to Brazil through all the Meth fumes.
On the other hand, some neocons found someone in Homeland Security to snoop on Greenwad’s travel schedule and post the dates and times of his flights back and forth to NYC and Brazil.
That would sure scare the living crap out of me.
LOL. Learn somethin new everyday.
I don’t especially care about GG, actually. I find it distasteful that he superglued himself to the Dem party netroots for fun and profit. I doubt in the end, other than much nattered about lightweight thrown together books and a spot at Salon, that it will mean much.
I am suspciious as well of the Wilson Plame games. They too superglued themselves to Dkos, FDL etc. And emptywheel of Next Sneeze Last Chance. “Fitzmas” online putsch stank of a Dem party op.
As for ferreting out GG travel details, does he know it was Neocons that did it?
I rather suspect GG has enemies and adversaries in a few camps. I just don’t care for him.
It is not a great community on the whole.
Ever read Conrad’s “Under Western Eyes”?
Brilliant dissection of expats.
Or “The Secret Agent”?
Equally brilliant novel about false flag operations.
As for ferreting out GG travel details, does he know it was Neocons that did it?
It was a fan of one of the LGF/Freep sites.
For me, if someone posted my travel schedule on the internet, I’d be like yawn, OK. Thanks for caring.
Since I’ve sold a number of photos off of Indymedia sites I also LIKE to be out in the open.
BUT if I had been Matt Hale’s lawyer and had enough contact with *that* crowd I don’t know if I’d want many people to know the intimate details of my travels.
Kind of a death threat. And since most people assume (like me) that there aren’t many people in the world who want to kill them, it’s also a very clever death threat. Unless you’re aware that Greenwald had dealt with some hard core white supremacists, you’d just assume it was a prank.
Personally the only problem I have with Greenwald is the fact that he can’t edit.
As Justin Raimondo wrote, “Greenwald went on, and on, and on, and on…”
FWIW, btw, David Neiwert did a pretty good job of trolling Raimondo and Raimondo came over the Neiwert’s site and got into a flaming match with some of his regulars.
But now Neiwert’s presenting himself as the big hero boy because some Nazis wrote nasty stuff about him on a web forum.
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/feel-love.html
I remember during the John Edwards flap Lindsey Beyerstein said “I have trolls but nobody hates me. Amanda Marcotte has real enemies.”
I wonder what that was all about.
I am suspciious as well of the Wilson Plame games.
That’s pretty obvious. It’s FUN to get your ass kissed.
Hey computer nerds. We’re a real Kool Secret Agent Couple.
I’m sure Elise sees herself shooting down trolls with panache…
ugh I had a very difficult disjointed day… and thru it, the Notre Dame game was on one of the TVs… I did not even notice who they played. BUT I did catch the commercials for some reason.
What sickening bullshit. Nationalism. militarism, spreading fear about security, some dipshit brainless girl who “was a freshman on 9/11” was one of the commericals. Telling us how “the country changed that day”.
It was horrifying. A mantra repeated thru the game… and then damn if the ND team did not win. Much weeoing form those emotional fuckups the Irish (or “Irish for a day”, you know how it goes). And then a commerical promoting the ‘Fighting Irish”.
We are in such a mess. And so many will vote for the bullshit come November of next year.
Don’t take less in the Devil’s bargain, but work less, live on less, denying profit accrual where possible off your back….
Refuse. Resist.
well said.
good post over at your place, Hair.
speaking of Chicago politics, This American Life had an interesting rememberance of Harold Washington’s mayoralty.
Listening to the attitudes of racist white ethnic voters looking back on him, and how his “more fair than fair” governing style changed the city, was interesting.
latest update from ZunaSurf/Kill the Spill (and Pacifica beach had officially reopened at 10 am today – like Ocean Beach here, OB has been rewashed iwth oil more than once, after an official re-opening then closure):
“I have trolls but nobody hates me. Amanda Marcotte has real enemies.”
Because she’s a good looking woman with big tits she likes to flaunt who makes fun of religious people. That’s about the extent of it … it’s not that she ever writes anything particularly insightful or original. Uppity attractive woman who attack religion are going to get unwelcome attention from damaged people wedded to those superstitions. It’s a fact of life.
All of Kucinich’s Responses in Debate
This Should Be Funny
Freedom Rider: Democrats Love Bush
well “high crime” reads Black and Brown neighborhoods. Immigrant neighborhoods, marginal neighborhoods.
And I would guess any neighborhood that has had more than once incidence of violent crime in some time frame that the cops will determine..
Kiss the 4th Amendment good bye.
funny how they get upset only when GUNS are the target of the state.
Oh, and 9/11 Firefighters and Family Members Plot Anti-Giuliani Ad Campaign makes me rub my hands together in glee.
mizzing marcotte is a bought and paid for intertoob political hack who’s sold her soul to the democratic party for some austin flavored minikos action. she’s a “feminist” was pimps 95-10 for christ’s sake! and more than likely because townhouse told her too. she likes the easy money.
who gives a fuck what that sellout has to say about anything? she’s got zero cred.
Hillary Heckled At Enviro Forum As Dems Vow A Greener America
madman
I did not hear the NRA get upset (maybe I missed it) when the NO cops began to take guns away from both whites and blacks.
They were on board with the R national and Dem state authoritarians and the NO city thugs….
But what happened in NO drove me insane and should worry anyone. I am not infavor of searches for any reason NOR for confiscation of weapons. Ordinary weapons.
oh, me neither … the 4th Amendment should be inviolate, and frankly gun control is worthless unless we’re willing to deal with racism and classism in this nation, which we’re not.
However, I do find the tripwires for the right to be funny things. Deny unwelcome speech, that’s okay, but start targeting guns …
well environmentalist suck oil if they will not join forces with anti war.
To be frank.
Almost all the “green stuff” suddenly go ing on is nothing more than marketing. I am surrounded by ‘carbon credit’ bullshit chit chat here…
Cannot think of the appropriate cuss words.
86 Try to calculate the carbon footprint of the Iraq war – just for shits and giggles, and you can even leave out the cost of lost opportunities.
Part of my great anger with dk etc is the failure to encourage a big, free ranging discussion of these matters, like cap n trade. They are not the only ones, by any means. Some of the NGO’s are very greatly at fault for their lack of transparency, lack of willingness to engage critics like Glen Barry – he of Climate Ark (desperately in need of funds, btw) and much else. Never mind their failure to support Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act, which pisses me off no end. Selling out to be playas. No one can go unexamined, certainly no one with a budget the size of Greenpeace.
Leaving the impression that it is a simple matter of another up or down vote on global warming, and that takes care of that issue, on to the next glorious phase of Dem party rule. It ain’t gonna be easy or simple and there is no use pretending it is.
Failure of Kucinich tonight, when pressed on coal jobs, to come right out and say there aren’t any buggy whip jobs any more either, god damn it. Change happens. You can either be ready or be blindsided.
Reading “In the Spirit of Crazy Horse” by Peter Mathiessen. Starting to feel a bit less self-righteous in regards to the Israelis.
I’ve actually made the argument that “while Indians were repressed in the past they now enjoy the full rights of American citizens”.
Ummm….I think I got that one wrong…
BTW, wasn’t Meteor Blades WITH Crazy Horse at the Little Big Horn?
oh here is a sad story – and it throws into high, bright contrast what Kos and the other AdLibbers really are when they accept a simple fucking ad, for cash, esp as they do not have to do that, they don’t have to support Chevron:
peeking around for some spill news at the sf chron i found
kitties!!!!!
hmm I was about to add that HcfM Monkeyboy diary is up at PFF… then I saw this sub thread.
LOL May i amend my assessment of donkeytale/titzshitz – I think he is winger astroturf. The “socialist London” would be a giveaway, rather like MB bleating about Maoist Left.
oh yes, and: FUCK THEM ALL.
fresh dead birds turning up, past 24 hours… from Pt Reyes. Just on the 11 pm news.
In other news Gavin Tarball cancels trip to China.
Too hard to hook up with coke dealers in China, is my guess. Easier in Hawai’i or Tahoe or or or or…………
donkeytail said
what a .0001% solution.
92 Red Ken was supposed to be the apocalypse itself. Crazy policies like pedestrian Trafalgar and congestion taxes would destroy civil society and be the end of the city.
Except they work and prove popular after the fact. Kucinich, anyone?
How can London continue at all without being socialist?
yeah, but donk/shitztitz uses it like an insult
hey cattle!
get loud proud and confrontational in the chute.
LOL May i amend my assessment of donkeytale/titzshitz – I think he is winger astroturf.
Probably an Ender or Moon sockpuppet.
donkeytail said
The article is about the collusion of both parties and “Donkeytale” is trying to take the discussion down a tangent.
It’s the same style of argument someone will use when you start talking about global warming and he says “oh yeah. Well you drive an SUV”.
How can London continue at all without being socialist?
Exactly the way New York and Paris work.
Shove the proles out to the far off suburbs and transform the central city into a gated community/police state.
99 That crap is everywhere, especially dkos, with all the purity talk. Ted Kennedy can’t argue for tax reform I suppose, because he fills out his tax form using whatever breaks he is given under current code.
This is considered legitimate argument?
I get cowboy welfare, overly generous I would argue. In the meantime I keep the money. Well actually I spread it around but you see my point.
Vote third party by all means!, vote strategically, vote perversely if you must, but vote or STFU. Others may disagree, and it – I mean anything at all – has gone my way a couple times in thirty years of voting.
but vote or STFU
well I won’t be legitimising the choice, which is no choice, between Hillary and Rudy. I sure did nto vote for Kerry, who would have been chased from office had he been allowed to “win”… SBVfT were not going to go away, among other things lit in neon that would be happening. Nor did I vote for Clinton in 96, sure was not going to underwrite fucking bullshite, nor did I ever defend him, for an instance.
As Oriana Falacci said of Berlusconi v Prodi, to vote for either ws sneezing on herself. I would agree.
oh there goes titzshitz again… LOL, as the mask drops he is very amusing:
LOL he reminds me of a white woman in TX 25 years ago who told me France was communist. Her name was Moselle and she was married to a man everyone called Duke.
Vineyard royalty I suppose. Perhaps Donkshitztitz is Moselle.
Luv thse winger white guys who marry Asian wimmen and then beat us over the head with it. Clue: we are bored, it is a common occurance, winger white guy marries Asian woman. So Webbite of them.
LOL Clintons push back on the Novakula column.
what a hoot:
anyone else notice that CNN’s on-line “political ticker” is a wordpress blog site?
“Kill the Spill” a good idea, since we cannot rely on the government:
http://tinyurl.com/34pdae
oh thanks for rthat Miss D, I kept waiting for the SfGate or Mercury News or Marin I-J to run a story like that, and they never did…
Accorting to their site, the hope was to get Marin to accept volunteers this weekend… as the beaches up there need help…
what a mess…
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hmm BAR has a very tough piece up on Gen Kip Ward who heads AFRICOM. I caught him on Charlie Rose last week. Quite the vision.
Luv thse winger white guys who marry Asian wimmen and then beat us over the head with it.
They’re probably sightly preferable to the wingers who marry Russian women but only slight….
Donkytale’s playing the “I’ll divert attention from the real issue by proposing a ludicrous ‘alternative’ and bash anybody who says it won’t work”.
Kind of like “oh yeah. Well if Al Gore really cared about global warming he wouldn’t be taking a plane now, would he. He’d walk”.
Le Monde Diplomatique on the US’s new back yard.
LOL he reminds me of a white woman in TX 25 years ago who told me France was communist. Her name was Moselle and she was married to a man everyone called Duke.
Chavez is the real giveaway. Saying his name is a bit like flashing a crucifix in front of a vampire. Wingers can’t help themselves.
But actually I think the best head of state in the world right now is Evo Morales, and by a pretty considerable margin.
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agree, he is gaming the conversation. Quite clearly.
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meant to mention, very sorry to hear of the mess with the car… I hope it resolves – it must be enraging to be towed from your own parking spot at a new place, with your parking tag in view…
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agree on mentioning Chavez as well. Not all his burbles sit well, but I am willing to “wait and see” right now.
AND agree on Evo… I hope things move along and in fact accelerate in the area…. I find his speeches unbelievably wonderful.
I am hoping anyway…
I don’t even mind Bachelet or Lula. Both will be entirely more progressive if Latin American gets out from under the shadow of the USA and the neoliberla world order.
Anyway the thing that strikes me about Chavez is the sheer lack of genuine repression.
He would have been well within his right to have had the coup leaders lined up and shot and closed down that winger TV station the day after he got into power.
Instead, he simply let the coup leaders get out of the country and waited for the TV station’s license to equire.
He’s no angel but as we’ve seen in South Africa with Mandela (who was such a good human being that he hugged his jailers after he got out of jail) even if a head of state has the best personal qualities, he and he locks his country into the neoliberal debt, he can still make his own people suffer.
Guatemala – think it was – just had a very hopeful election. I was not able to pay much attention right at the moment… but… it seemed hopeful.
And Correa of Ecuador has been enjoyable to watch as well…
There is hope… 8)
yes I don’t waste a lot of time on Mandela as a leader.
Guatemala – think it was – just had a very hopeful election.
Yeah the old head of the death squads just lost to a halfway decent civilian alternative.
The guy who almost won was behind the murder of Juan Gerardi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Jos%C3%A9_Gerardi_Conedera
You really don’t want someone as president who would conspire to have a 73 year old human rights activist’s brains bashed in.
This is funny
http://www.politicalfleshfeast.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1172
I was always confused why that Harry Edwards guy got diary after diary on the rec list because he got up during a Q&A session with Bush and told the crowd Bush sucks.
Eighteen months ago I attended a Town Hall meeting in Albuquerquee with the President and had a chance to speak. I told him that I had never been more ashamed of our leadership in Washington. Understand that I don’t hate Bush. But I am embarrassed and angered and frightened by his leadership. This president does not speak for pinches. He doesn’t speak for most of us here in the 3th District, regardless of whether we are Democrats, Republicans, or pinches.
Reading “In the Spirit of Crazy Horse” by Peter Mathiessen.
Fantastic book, and damn that fucker Clinton for not pardoning Peltier.
The story about Shahbazi is heartbreaking. I can’t imagine the courage it takes to throw your body into the gears of the machine the way he did.
I love Evo Morales and Correa of Ecuador. I’m also a fan of how Chavez has handled the whole thing because he’s moving the Overton Window that I like to harp about in Latin America. His more confrontational statements make people like Morales and Correa look moderate in comparison, even though they are championing policies that would have gotten them attacked as communists not all that long ago. Watching what is happening in Latin America now is wonderful, and I hope in a decade or two it moves north.
The War and the Wimp Factor
Reid blames GOP “bullies” for his party’s spinelessness
121-except for that presidency for life Chavez is looking for.
And don’t forget–dubya will be moving to his land in Paraguay, that is sitting upon Paraguay’s largest aquifer.
In the smaller picture: I talked (via phone) to the woman who was in my parking space yesterday and asked her why the space number was written on the blank side of the parking tag, instead of the side with the apt. complex logo. She fumbled for the answer. I went down to the garage early this morning and her car is no longer in my space. I looked around to see if it was parked elsewhere, and I must say I am mighty impressed with the with all the shiny new cars and SUV’s in this “affordable housing” place. There was even a Lexus. No wonder they towed my ’87 car without a thought. I’m obviously bringing down the ‘hood.
I went to the Safeway in my old neighborhood this morning, cuz my bank outlet is there. There was a decent price for pork roast (well–as compared to $30 turkeys) so I bought, and was fantasizing a good garlic and rosemary smothered roast, then remembered my rosemary bush was stolen a couple years ago. On the walk back, I remembered there were some rosemary bushes growing outside a restaurant, so as I walked by I took a couple 3″ snips. Then I saw the notice that the place was patrolled by camera 24/7.
I am now a documented rosemary sprig thief.
Yesterday I dropped by the old place to pick up mail, and one of the flowershop workers told me that some guy loaded up a bunch of merchandise and flowers from the back of the shop and went off with them. Well, that’s what happens when you get rid of the chihuahua overlord and his owner.
The shop worker told me he missed me. I guess my ingress and egress with casual conversation was pleasant enough. The owners did have the police drill him regarding the theft.
They took down the IMPEACH sign from my old porch.
from san jose mercury press:
” The Vietnamese aren’t going back. Not ever.
Asian Indians, even though they are the newest arrivals to Silicon Valley, own the most valuable real estate.
Mexicans are the youngest.
And the Chinese, though many lack the English skills of some immigrant groups, are thriving in business.”
http://tinyurl.com/25d42b
Crooks and Liars pointed toward this: the best part of “Sicko”.
Tony Benn destroys Bolton
121-except for that presidency for life Chavez is looking for.
The problem in some ways is that the USA makes it impossible for socialists in Latin American to hold power democratically.
The two bad extremes are Allende (dead) and Castro (notice how Castro prevented young Cubans from assuming any leadership positions and how now the Cuban revolution is dying with its old men).
Chavez seems to me to be charting a decent middle course.
Of course he’s not going to be perfect. But you root for your team, perfect or not and when they occasionally cut corners, you deal.
John Bolton needs to be eaten alive by a million fire ants.
After being waterboarded
Re Tony Benn
Don’t fuck with the British in verbal combat. You’ll lose.
Reading “In the Spirit of Crazy Horse” by Peter Mathiessen.
Fantastic book, and damn that fucker Clinton for not pardoning Peltier.
Most Americans simply don’t know anything about Pine Ridge. Fuck, I can’t believe how ignorant I am about all of it.
From the forced steralization of Indian women to the Monument to Genocide (Mt. Rushmore) we’re as bad as the fucking Israelis.
I’m only 124 pages into it and I seriously need to burn a flag.
Marisa @ 29,
Chavez gives oil to Citizens Energy every year. I doubt they could continue without him:
http://www.citizensenergy.com/main/Home.html
“What is the Oil Heat Program?
In partnership with CITGO, Citizens Energy works with thousands of oil heat dealers and local fuel assistance agencies in 16 states to provide deliveries of home heating oil to those in need. This year the Oil Heat Program will provide eligible families a one-time delivery of 100 gallons of home heating oil.”
When Chavez called Bush the Devil at the UN, a bunch of wingers tried to pressure Joe Kennedy into “dropping” Citgo’s partnership. Kennedy called them out in a widely circulated editorial, which IIRC, appeared in both the New York Times and the Boston Globe. He noted the long list of corporations and countries who do business with Citgo–including Halliburton– and told them to take up their concerns with them. He had no intentions of letting old people in the North East freeze to death.
Some of these same critics tried to get the city of Boston to take down our landmark Citgo sign for the same reason. The city had just spent a whole lot of money revamping the landmark and these nuts wanted them to take it down? The city hemmed and hawed for a bit and let the controversy pass quietly. The citizens of Boston made it easy for them to do so, most were against removing the sign because, well, “how can you find Kenmore Square without it.”
Some of these same critics tried to get the city of Boston to take down our landmark Citgo sign for the same reason.
There’s a Citgo near me. I buy gas there whenever I can.
Of course it doesn’t matter that much. Oil’s a fungible commodity and the Chinese would by it if we didn’t.
Oops. “The American Thinker” is me. Stuck on my clipboard after making a list of the wingnuttiest sites on the internets.
Ca. Fire Documents Conflict With Reports
Mex vs BC (Born Citizen)
Jerry Falwell’s God
I like the concept of the I’m a Mex and I’m a BC videos but they need more focus and better execution.
And they should get a WASPier more uptight looking BC. That’s the appeal of John Hodges in the Mac vs. PC commericials. He’d be even funnier here.
“Oil’s a fungible commodity and the Chinese would by it if we didn’t.”
Yes, absolutely, HC.
I believe JK made that point as well. They wanted him to drop Citgo to make a statement, as in, “we won’t let you give us oil to make yourself look good.”
Who cares if he does it as a PR stunt or not? People who are forced to choose between heat and food don’t give a damn.
Miss Devore # 123
😀
In Montana, Indians are Guilty Until Proven Innocent
Paul/Ahmadinejad 2008
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071118/opec.html
So why are Ender, Moon and their various sock puppets onto the “blacks screw things up when they get to run things for themelves” kick?
IOZ makes The Beast. 🙂
“In August, Pittsburgh’s 27-year-old mayor, Luke Ravenstahl, along with his wife and some friends, hopped into a GMC Yukon and went to see a Toby Keith concert. Turns out it’s a sort of double-secret-probation-mobile, purchased with a federal homeland security grant and assigned to a police “intelligence unit.” Questions arise. Politically: Why does Pittsburgh have a 27-year-old mayor? Aesthetically: Why does he listen to Toby Keith? Ontologically: Why is Toby Keith? Practically: What the fuck kind of intelligence do you gather tooling around the hilly neighborhoods of an old steel town only now on the uncertain cusp of a modest economic recovery in a 5,500 lb., 5.7-liter, 320-bhp V8?”
http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/real-print.html
“Don’t you see how the dollar has been in free-fall without a parachute?” Chavez said, calling the euro a better option.
Yes, many have noticed this. Even our corporate media has noted this is a major factor in the high price of oil.
sorry!
aemd and BHHM out of Moderation…
off to check Spam…
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Space. I know own a One Terabyte hard drive. And I’m just about old enough to have been blown away when they started measuring hard drives in Gigs.
hmm the fact that the mayor uses the HLS paid for SUV for pirivate use is an issue with IOZ he has written on it before.
Someown should do an expose of all that terror cash that is floating around. I mean, famously in 2006 iirc the Bay Area ports got
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Someown should do an expose of all that terror cash that is floating around.
Paging Greg Palast…….
it has always seemed to me that the terror money is Cash to the Red States, hush money to everyone… and so on.
Bit by bit we become the SuV – Taser Inc – Surveillance Tech Police State.
A Day at Oil Beach
thanks for that madman.
I think the “spill” was a lot bigger than the 58K figure they use. Not just the bit of text that was said on the NBC affiliate, after I saw the sea lions washed up dead at what I think was Angel Island, the very next dawn, the bit of text that said 58K was being looked at as a “conservative estimate”… but it has been reported by one of the local environmental grss roots who appeared at the Senate hearing, that each time the Cosco Busan was moved (which was twice, they kept anchoring it, in the bay, or at Hunter’s Pt, before they took it to dry dock in Oakland) it left a big swathe of this hedious oil.
They so did us. IMO BUsh got a small version of the FEMA trifecta they speculated on before 9/11
NYC by terrorism
NO by hurricane / storm
Bay Area by massive earthqake
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well I can guess one reason, the endless meme being run that ‘Blacks are less than other minorities’ and just less overall, after all one is running for Veepessa, at best. But a show run for president.
The sad thing is that most programs, from SAfrica to home grown small programs are calculated for failure. Very heartbreaking.
And i might add, despite the amusement earlier of titzshitz calling out VeronicatheViking (pff screen anme), whoever that is, seems to be morphing. Just about on schedule.
So many of these entities arrive, establish a certain political persona and a dominance in threads — and then morph.
who knows.
this is the latest post at Zuna surf…
and this is the one comment, so far… I can see the battle now for weeks, the need to keep cleaning, which agencies wanted to shut down in the first few days after the spill. Lately the cleaners RE CLEAN beaches, try to get access to beaches that have not been cleaned (Marin and E Bay) and set about cleaning rocks (the oil is under and around rocks), where it seems the surf is no longer depositing new oil on the beach part…
I just want to know why EVERYTHING has to be pried out with legal filings and people risking arrest … I’m so sick of it.
hmm listening to the ABC affiliate… news…
they are admitting that it is “out there” floating around, it is miles off shore now. It may reach Farallones Islands (27 miles offshore) and it may reach Ano Nuevo (50 miles so).
They are also admitting that should the weather warm (hello?) that releases tarballs from the floor/shelf, they rise and head for the beaches again.
This will go on for a long long time.
Needless to say, I don’t recommend any fish or food from waters around here. There is another push on to open the area to fishing, if not crabbing. Testing results due tomorrow and they have been testing crab, they say… ugh.
Swann’s Oyster Depot on Polk St was on the record right away (day 2 or 3), objecting to safety issues/concerns/restrictions w/r/t fishing/crabbing. INSISTING it was safe to eat fish and crab from the waters. Geesh! I would nto exactly call them mobbed up, but they are part of the local thug action.
140-the roast was good, but not as good as the laughs you gave.
Ignore meat thermometers-I should have taken it out when my eyes said it was done.
The new neighborhood mini-mart sells Romanian Kashkaval cheese-2# for $4.50. I chatted up the Ethiopian owner about my alleged Pushkin heritage, and he recalled Pushkin from his days “in the Soviet Union.”
The chihuahua got so highstrung tonight (he’s a cheese freak) he was sitting atop the back of the armchair.
The bitch has left the parking space. Smells like guilt to me.
baby is a cheese freak as well. Perhaps an addled, blind, weak of leg gato could find happiness with a highly charged chihuahua…
LOL… anyway, when I am desperate to find her some alternative food to perk her up, I go for a couple of the Friskies that have cheese in them, a tuna and cheese and a turkey and cheese.
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cheesus christ.
Illegal Aliens
Brother of State Department inspector general quits Blackwater advisory board
Kucinich Signs SmartPower ‘Declaration of Energy Independence’
VeronicatheViking (pff screen anme),
There’s something about someone singing the praises of Scandinavian style social democracy and arguing that a Latin American head of state already subjected to one American sponsored coup that just rankles me.
Seriously Meteor Blades style leftists annoy me more than wingnuts do sometimes.
Had Chavez lined up the coup plotters and had them shot THEN shipped the body parts to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in a box labeled “return to sender” he would have been well within his rights.
But he let them leave the country.
Had that happened here in the USA they would have spent the rest of their lives in an orange jumpsuit getting water poured down their lungs.
Yep
The common thread I’ve been reading lately about leftists and Jews is that they are having trouble getting more than a dozen people to come to their stuff (whether anti-Zionist or Zionist). The anti-Israel movement is not moving forward, because “protest Zionist imperialism” is just not a catchy slogan. By contrast, there are over 400 RP activists against war taxes in Boston alone.
‘Merkens have nothing against Israel or not great love for Palestinians but if they could chose not to pay for the Israeli army they’d chose it in a second.
That’s why Paul’s more threatening than Chomsky.
The whole line of baiting *me* as a “white American” in that diary isn’t really very threatening or very original. Maybe when I was 19 it would have bothered me.
It’s just so annoying and stupid.
Maybe put a Hillary/Obama team in the White House and let them start a war so people realize it’s not white males that are the problem. It’s the system.
Duncan beginning to shift into Hillary boosterism.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_11_18_archive.html#3310080175958346705
And he’s not even subtle about it.
This is so pathetic:
Patients Without Borders
Not the work they do, but that it is NECESSARY in this country.
Atrios is still pretty subtle compared to this.
It’s going to so rock when Pastordan finds himself in hell after he dies.
Eat your heart out, GOP. The Marshall Islands show how it\’s done:
A local journalist said on Radio Australia that he visited several polling stations around noon and found them open, but lacking tables, chairs, and ballots.
moiv!
that link should come with am airsickness bag.
and no more NO2 for 140
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Yeah, I wasn’t tough enough to even think of wading through the comments. At this rate, I’ll never make it ’til next November.
“Let there be peace in Kosland” was one of the comments. Does that mean don’t forget your silencer the next time you disappear troublesome members of the herd?
pastor slam.
what a hoot. WOnder if he ever figures it out that if there is anything resembling a GAWD, it does not think about him. Or care…
My mother used to quote, or paraphrase, Robinson Jeffers, and so god clapped his chubby hands in glee then take a drag off an English Oval. For good measure.
LOL my local news is all very chatty about the OPEC meeting but not discussing the bootleg cable delivery, much captioning in silence the clips of Mahmoud… pics of Chavez and Abdullah of HoS, etc…… they DO ASSURE us tho that all our “allies” at OPEC will protect us.
IN WHAT FUKCING UNIVERSE?
moiv
anything up with Mercury this week?
Just wondering, Miss D’s towed car issues at her new place
and I spent a very distasteful weekend in argument with Safeway… that probably originated with mechanical vehicular failure on their part.
Or which ever planet… some fireball in retrograde headed for the earth, etc… 😉
That must be it. And to think I assumed I only have a cold. I’m relieved to realize that it’s something so much more impressive. 😉
part One: Fuck up per the plan.
part Two: Fuck up MORE, per the plan.
thread, post, something…
LINK