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Carnevale 20 February 2012

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Europe, France, The Battle for New Orleans.
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Nice, France: the King of Nice represented during the city’s carnival | Frederic Nebinger/Getty Images

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I have on Treme, Season 1 for the umpteenth time… as Mardi Gras rolls around again…

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1. marisacat - 20 February 2012: So sorry ts… when I went to “publish” there were some hiccups…and I never noticed it had defaulted to no comments no pingbacks..

Corrected now…

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2. diane - 20 February 2012: Posted at 03:39 PM ET, 02/20/2012

Hundreds protest anti-abortion bills on Capitol Square

By Anita Kumar and Laura Vozzella

Several hundred people — men and women — lined Capitol Square on Monday in silent protest against legislation they say chips away at abortion rights.

Hand-decorated T-shirts bore startling messages: “Keep your laws off my future wife’s body,” “Virginia is for lovers, not probes’’ and “If you can cut off my reproductive choice, can I cut off yours?

Another referenced the trans-vaginal ultrasounds that would be required of women seeking abortions in the early stages of pregnancy: “What is more intrusive than vaginal penetration?”

Protesters, who mostly stayed quiet, held up signs. “I am not a [ expletive deleted] [”FUCKING” fits – diane] incubator,” read one. “When do I get personhood, Bob?” [Bob Marshall (R-Prince William) – diane] read another.

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marisacat - 20 February 2012: Yikes. Moiv just sent me this from the thread at Wapo:

Hundreds Protest Anti Abortion Bills on Capitol

Comment from the thread:

Delphician

4:49 PM CST

Meet Del Bob Marshal (R- prince William), sponsor of the personhood bill:

In 1989, when Marshall was working as the research director of the American Life League, he told the Boston Globe that he opposes all forms of abortion and birth control that take effect after conception.

“We’re against the IUD and pills, too. They don’t prevent ovulation and conception, they prevent implantation, which is abortion.”

When asked about abortion in the case of incest, Marshall replied that sometimes incest is voluntary.

In response to abortions in the case of rape, Marshall said,

“Your origins should not be held against you [referring to the victim’s unborn child]. The woman becomes a sin-bearer of the crime, because the right of a child predominates over the embarrassment of the woman.”

This unhinged zealot is passing laws that will impact all women living in the state of Virginia

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diane - 20 February 2012: unfuckingbelievable, he should be locked up somewhere, and if has kids, investigated for possible incest:

When asked about abortion in the case of incest, Marshall replied that sometimes incest is voluntary.

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ms_xeno - 21 February 2012: And Hopey won’t have shit to say against this, right? Or he’ll issue some vapid, useless comment about “support,” which of course means he supports getting money from NARAL and the women’s vote, but not doing squat to reverse the erosion of our fucking rights.

But shut up and give him all your money, Ladies, because… uh, his silence protects you or some shit like that.

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ms_xeno - 21 February 2012: And I just saw the bit in moiv’s link where some elected D is so happy that a new generation of pro-choice women is coming around to stand in silent solidarity. Let’s hear for a new generation of women that the D’s can keep isolated on their side of the two-party compound! Let’s hear it for more glorified blackmail and more lobbyists getting rich on women’s fears! I’m excited!

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marisacat - 21 February 2012: Oh some claim our authoritarian northern black fake evangelist is a FEMINIST.

Biggest joke in years.

😆 😆 😆

Really.

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ms_xeno - 21 February 2012: It’s okay to just sit back quietly and let some asshole demand that women be forced to carry to term their own Daddies’ sperm. So long as you don’t openly agree with the fucking deranged pig, you get to be a feminist and stick your grabby, filthy paw in the Feminist Till whenever you want. All the while stacking your own goddamn party with as many pro-lifers as you want.

:rolleye:

Yeah, I don’t think the joke is on Hopey. >:

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marisacat - 21 February 2012: All the while stacking your own goddamn party with as many pro-lifers as you want.

Bingo. Oh yeah. Complete sell-out.

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3. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2012: The woman becomes a sin-bearer

that is fucking xtianity in a nutshell

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moiv - 20 February 2012: Bless you, my son.

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Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2012: I don’t understand why five millenia of this Abrahamic bullshit isn’t enough.

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4. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 February 2012: Oakland PD ‘Forgetting’ To Turn On Their Body-Mounted Cameras

Relations between Oakland police and the city’s residents have never been good, which is one reason why the department issued body-mounted cameras to its officers last year.

The goal was to increase accountability, which is important for a department that is facing afederal takeover this March.

However, the above video, which shows several officers with their body-mounted cameras turned off – a departmental violation – is just the latest example of Oakland police officers not wanting any accountability.The video is also a clear demonstration of just how high tensions are between Oakland police and citizens.

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5. BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: LOL

Over at the Lord High Meyer Press Barron Michael Pumpendump-bergs rag

Israel Safest as Investors Discount War Threat

A rather fun entrant in the New Yorkshire terrier class..
Look at the little wiggler go!

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BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: I certainly hope there is no story out there about international rate rigging with inside-info-for-the-sexo via a global prostitution ring run by Tax Cheat Engineering Banksters and Israeli Gangsters.

My God man!
That could affect the pound puppies at Westminster!

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6. BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: Strauss-Kahn Held by French Police

PARIS — Police officials in the northern French city of Lille detained Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the former managing director of the International Monetary Fund, on Tuesday in connection with an investigation into an alleged prostitution ring operating in France and Belgium.

Brusselshprouts anyone? 😆
And don’t forget Washington!

Mr. Strauss-Kahn, who was once considered the likely Socialist Party presidential candidate to oppose the incumbent, Nicolas Sarkozy this year, appeared voluntarily for questioning in connection with allegations of complicity in activities related to prostitution in Paris and Washington and embezzlement to pay for them, French news reports said.

Mr. Strauss-Kahn was taken into custody under a French judicial mechanism that allows detention for questioning without charge for 48 hours and which may be extended for a further 48 hours.
Police are investigating alleged orgies paid for by two businessmen in 2010 and 2011 in Paris and Washington. Investigating magistrates suspect that the women were paid by a French company that employed one of the men involved in the alleged prostitution ring.

Magistrates are investigating whether Mr. Strauss-Kahn was aware that women who entertained him were prostitutes. One of his lawyers, Henri Leclerc, has ridiculed the idea. “He could easily not have known, because as you can imagine, at these kinds of parties you’re not always dressed, and I challenge you to distinguish a naked prostitute from any other naked woman,” Mr. Leclerc told a French radio station, Europe 1, in December.

o Yah,, as it has turned out,
Dominique Strauss Kahn, DSK,
the man with an amazing “11: on his Orgy Dial,
that veritable Nigel among big banking’s Spinal Tap cock-stars,
Who, among google searches for ‘carlton affair’
who enjoys a top hit and link for
DSK Fights Orgy Claim – The Daily Beast

….Is uhm, back in the news.

It also has been dribbling out that on humdinger of a Manhattan power-stroke orgy occurred the night before he had the the maid for breakfast. Not much of an overnight fast, apparently. A seperate meal entirely.

In other market news, trading in Mossad Sex Ring Operations are expected to be down before March 20th.

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marisacat - 21 February 2012: I thnk they will end up having to let him go. 48 plus 48 .. 4 days right? Out by end of the week. It just will not be enough for a prosecution.

I still say Nafissatou v DSK was a collision of agendas.

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BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: …in all orifices, too.
A real multiple level chess game of Twister, there.

What I’d like to see ( hell, if I wanted restraint and my ass chapped or more, I’m welcome at the neighbors Phil and Gladys, come to think of it, Phil and Bill’s too – anytime! – Oh, and the….) ANYWAYS what I’d like to see exposed is the currency market aspect of it. God forbid Anonymous hacks into the larger Wall Street, DC, or European outcall operations.
Options on favored flesh traded globally, overnight delivery to seal such mergers and acquisitions now assured worldwide. All it takes is a horntoad here, an expense account there, and reckless enough judgment to hand over a career.

One thing that was buttoned-up very quickly around the “2008” “Crisis” were reports on the degree to which the various ancillary personal services were frequented by Banksters, Hedge Funders, and their coporate-counterpart likes and were routinely written off expense accounts. So nice to know we are paying for somebody’s Lunch Special with the Rimjob. LOL

Oh I’m not talkin about some chickadee popping out of a cardboard cake at the annual Poultry Packaging Sales Convention with the cash bar where they even “let” the salesmen bill-to-food and fill in the ticket amount and all. No, I’m not talkin about Color TV Even, down at the Howard Johnson’s and all. Of course I don’t know WHAT I’m talking about anymore, all that fine ass and money floating around…. and on a TAB even! LOL.

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marisacat - 21 February 2012: The problem is that female flesh, and boy flesh too, has always been served up. Without asking for nor even wanting a world without the demimondaine or the “floating world” of Asia… of course I don’t want traffiking. Honestly I cnanot think of anything worse.

But frankly, no one seems to be stopping it. S O M E countries where the women get traffiked do a little, but it is so little.

I’ve heard that all sorts of traffiking, not just the drugs that we seem happy to bleat about lately, but human flesh as well, is one of the FAMILY Karzai businesses. Not just the errant brother or brother in law or whoever it was who was outed after he was offed (so convenient – dead CIA assets being instantly worth less on the hoof)…. Nothing new neither not not.

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BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: Nothing new neither not not. Oh I agree.
But now we have the Internal Revenue Code. LOL.

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marisacat - 21 February 2012: Nnnnnnn

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7. marisacat - 21 February 2012: hmmm Partay at 1600?

Yes? No?

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Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Dow Crosses 13,000 for First Time Since 2008

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BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: For some reason now,
I’m thinking of starting a brokerage house.

I dunno, Hughty Oot. Winkledinkins and Co. maybe.
~ Stocks ~ Bonds ~ Curios ~ Notions ~
…the like.

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marisacat - 21 February 2012: 😆 Cash in before the crash!

God knows what they have planned for us. Not a rosy future I would guess…………………..

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BooHooHooMan - 21 February 2012: More “Extend and Pretend” I think.
This no volume, high priced market is all trade-to-cover cratering options positions.

A few things seen over the last week –

Any lingo-gymnastic gibberish deployed to avoid the word “default”.The ECB imposed retro-active contract revisions to avoid triggering credit default swaps. Cherrypicked of course, and… for now….

And they are just rollin rollin rollin over new bond issues, A large EU bond swap the other day (300 Billion USD)

In the U.S. there is no dramatic government standoff over austerity measures. Because That fix has lonnnnnng been in.

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8. diane - 21 February 2012: (second post, with hopefully corrected “blockquotes,” can you delete the first one hon? Sorry, and thanks!)

Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM

The truth about violence at Occupy

In Oakland, the camp coincided with a significant drop in crime. But that wasn’t the story we were told

By Rebecca Solnit

It was originally posted at TomDispatch.com:

Tomgram: Rebecca Solnit, Why the Media Loves the Violence of Protesters and Not of Banks

Posted by Rebecca Solnit at 9:40am, February 21, 2012.

with prefacing commentary by Tom:

In December 2001, 110 of 112 revelers at a wedding died, thanks to a B-52 and two B-1B bombers using precision-guided weapons to essentially wipe out a village in Eastern Afghanistan (and then, in a second strike, to take out Afghans digging in the rubble). The incident got next to no attention here. It wasn’t, after all, a case of American “violence,” but a regrettable error. No one thought to suggest that the invasion of Afghanistan should be shut down because of it, nor was it discredited due to that mass killing.

It had been a mistake. As would be the case with those other weddings obliterated by U.S. air power in Iraq and Afghanistan in the years to come. As were the funerals and baby-naming rites blasted away in those later years. As have been, more recently, the more than 60 children killed by CIA drone strikes in the Pakistani tribal borderlands, the funerals hit by those same drones, and the recently documented secondary strikes — as in that December 2001 attack — on rescuers trying to pull the wounded out of the rubble.

Yet, as TomDispatch regular Rebecca Solnit points out, “violence” within and by the Occupy movement in this country — we’re talking about several sexual assaults in Occupy camps, a suicide, drug use, and a small amount of property damage, bottles thrown, and the like by outliers at Occupy demonstrations — has in certain quarters somehow been enough to discredit the movement, even in some cases to paint it as a kind of living nightmare. Such violence, minimal as it might have been, instantly discredited Occupy on the American landscape.
This, mind you, in a society in which 14,000 murders were committed in 2011, in which more than 30,000 people died in traffic accidents, in which a recent Pentagon report indicated that violent sexual crimes in the military have risen by 64% since 2006 (95% against women, even though they make up only 14% of the force’s personnel). And yet somehow, neither weapons, nor cars, nor the U.S. military is discredited by such violence.
It would, in fact, be surprising to imagine that a movement whose camps actually welcomed, housed, and fed those essentially thrown away by this society would lack problems. In truth, Occupy should have been hailed for its assault on violence at every level in this society. Nothing could be more striking in Solnit’s piece than the statistic she cites on the remarkably unnoticed drop in violence in Oakland, California, in the weeks before Occupy Oakland itself was violently assaulted by that city’s police force. Tom

[much more]

(bolding mine, hat tip to Lambert and a few of the “hamsters” at Corrente, constantly haranguing and sticky noting ™ about violence among the 99%, for inspiring me to post this.)

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diane - 21 February 2012: (I love you Marisa, Honey! <;0) ….thank you for the blockquote fix sugar.)

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Madman in the Marketplace - 21 February 2012: thanks for that

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diane - 21 February 2012: you’re welcome! I’ve been so tired of of gnats gathering around over ripe bananas, versus the pile of carrion “our” “Homeland” is responsible for.

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diane - 21 February 2012: (in re: Lambert/Corrente and certain “hamsters,” the following response, was to a sticky noted ™ post about Violence ™, seemingly unanswered as I post this (it appears to have been posted at 12:18 pm EST, it is now 9:45 pm EST)):

Will this be addressed

By RanDomino on Tue, 02/21/2012 – 12:18pm

“1) By refusing to acknowledge that we do not consider property damage to be violence, you are misrepresenting us as being “violence advocates” even though we do not see ourselves as such. It’s simply being pointlessly provocative. It’s like calling pro-choice advocates “pro-abortion”.”

This is the crux of the frame of the argument- if you persist in calling us “violence advocates,” we will have no choice but to consider you to be nothing but assholes. If you are willing to at least recognize that we are human being with similar frustrations with capitalism and government, albeit with a different analysis and expressed in different ways, then find a term that is not insulting. Will you do this, or not?

Lambert must be out gardening in the dark, with affinis, on his seemingly expansive acreage. …Not to fault him for hanging on to the land, but what he appears to miss, is that many are pretty much being asked to die somewhere out of site, as they have no land whatsoever (for, at least somewhat, safe haven), for generally, no fault of their own. Should they not throw rocks at those demanding that they shut up and die?)

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diane - 21 February 2012: (sorry I messed up the second link, (corrected: Will this be addressed), it’s the same as the first link, which does work.)

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ms_xeno - 21 February 2012: I don’t get Lambert at all. When you boil it all down, he still carries on like the sun nearly shone out of Billy C’s ass in the Nineties, and that we all would’ve been mega-better off if Billy C’s royal consort had gotten teh crown that was rightfully (no pun intended) hers before Obama stole it.

I haven’t been back there since he scolded me for my shit attitude a year or so ago. If he honestly thinks that the driver makes that much of a difference when the vehicle itself is such an utter piece of irredeemable crap, he’s not even worth a bi-annual lurk. He’s an idiot.

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diane - 21 February 2012: at the very least, he appears to have fallen hard out of the graces of the White Male, Mid to Upper Management Class, yearning for those days when people were forced (especially the lil ladies), to listen to him, while frequently lashing out at the right things, as long as it doesn’t threaten his new found love of gardening.

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ms_xeno - 21 February 2012: [shrug]

I have zero patience for the idea that we could have saved the day by just plugging in a different Democrat. One who now happily works for the Democrat we DID plug in, for pity’s sake.

I feel the same way about feminist blogs like Violet Socks’ space. I got a stern talking-to there for failing to understand the awesomeness of Hilary, which is somehow in direct proportion to the horribleness of Obama. I lost interest and bailed in a hurry once I realized that was a big thing there.

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diane - 21 February 2012: I have zero patience for the idea that we could have saved the day by just plugging in a different Democrat.

yup, Hillary would have been just as bad, if not worse. Same way I came to feel about entertaining a Gore what if, and green, my ass; his Google and Apple “benfactors” are everything but green …some ‘folks’ should take tours of the server farms in the sout,’ (where much of the remaining fresh water is), etc., then they should visit the places where the rare earth ™, is mined by the kiddles, for their new, must have!, toys and $500 phones (which spy on them [snirk]) that are obsolesced after a few months.

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ms_xeno - 21 February 2012: Uh oh.

Is this a bad time to confess that over the weekend, I bought a used iPod.

One of my co-workers is a nice enough person, but she has this thing for Night Ranger and Duran Duran, etc., and I hated that stuff the *first* time out… 👿

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diane - 21 February 2012: well, apparently you won’t be able to listen to any new music soon, without having one (sigh). A huge used and new Record/CD etc. store, Rasputin’s (the only remaining new music store I’m aware of within about a 40 mile, radius), is going out of business (at least the one near where I live, not sure about the other Rasputin’s locations … and afraid to look)

When you’re pretty much forced, due to deliberate obsolesence, that’s not the same thing; especially if you’re buying an already “used” item. It’s not at all like replacing a $500 phone every few months, etc. …
marisacat - 21 February 2012: You are forgiven my child… survival out on the Badlands just dictates some “sins”.

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9. marisacat - 21 February 2012: Oh too too funny!!

[S]ince then, however, Babeu and “Jose” have been everywhere, fighting their he-said, he-said battles in dueling cable news interviews. Babeu has also come out in support of same-sex marriage and the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, positions that are almost certain to alienate him from the Tea Party and Minute Men following he has cultivated in Arizona. . . . . .

Read more: Business Insider

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diane - 21 February 2012: Oh I think that Founding Papas!!!!! 13 colonies!!!!! Snake Tatoo (if I’m not mistaken) on his arm (just like our dearest, imported Mouth Organ Expert from Scotland, Craigy, haz), saiz it all:….heze a Topper [in Heat, …if I might borrow an Historic! …. phrase]! Survivalist!!!! ….just like our dear, Peter Thiel (“I before [Th]e[e]”), PayFwend and FaceScan Founding Papa.

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diane - 21 February 2012: (ohhh Doctor Paul, …we never knew! …[snirk] …… ya despised us barefoot and preggers …… wimmins ….)

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10. BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: Blown-off-stem to sinking stern stupid manship Ross Douthet

Let us begin at article’s conception, shall we?

AMID the sound and fury of the latest culture-war battles …

Oh YES, womben, DO join the Battle!
You must!

— first over breast cancer dollars and Planned Parenthood, and then over the White House’s attempt to require that religious employers cover contraception and potential abortifacients — it’s easy to forget that there is at least some common ground in American politics on sex, pregnancy, marriage and abortion.

YES wimmen of the Realm! 🙄
The Culture War Truce has been lost! The Komen Treaty failed to prevent the commencement of hostilities! Security arrangements negotiated at the whole Obama Catlick Malta Yalta Yada Yah have proved insufficient!
Unfortunately you must leave hearth and home at once!
You must join our men!
Where there is common ground at The Front!

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Stepping out of character now.
Oh it only get’s worse from a prig with a twig the size of a redwood up his ass. Back in character now. Hopefully among some sentient sorts passing by….

Out with it man!

These are realities liberals should keep in mind when tempted to rail against conservatives for rejecting the intuitive-seeming promise of “more condoms, fewer abortions.” What’s intuitive isn’t always true, and if social conservatives haven’t figured out how to make all good things go together in post-sexual-revolution America, neither have social liberals.

At the very least, American conservatives are hardly crazy to reject a model for sex, marriage and family that seems to depend heavily on higher-than-average abortion rates. They’ve seen that future in places like liberal, cosmopolitan New York, where two in five pregnancies end in abortion. And it isn’t a pretty sight.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: Pooooor Ross, a boyship I think rather than a manship!

He best stay out of cali – he’ll catch our cooties!… I just heard yesterday that the State Dept of Health and a state Non-profit, using CDC monies to prevent the spread of STDs, is going to make free in-the-mail condoms available to teens, from the age of 12.

😆 They will arrive with lubricant and a pamphlett…

They will start with the 5 counties with the highest numbers of teen STDs… which sad to say includes 3 Bay Area counties… one of which is San Francisco.

So… a great idea, doing something right, but obviously we are failing on the STD front.

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BooHooHooMan@xespu.org - 22 February 2012: Well for my first time, reading a full Ross Who? piece that is ( II rarely read NYT opines anymore, tho I remem the name from IOZ whacking him around on something or other) It was, again, with another of these 30-something cubicle cubs they always seem to have passing thru: Where do they come up them?

I know, nothin new, not not not. 😉

Anyways. Good on Cali.
They really need some slogans for the program tho..
California Condomail!.
Putting Prophylactics on the Post Pubescent Penis! Something alliterative I would think with a logistical service reminder.
Order on Monday to assure Weekend Delivery!

And boilerplate warnings such as
Not for Use While Operating Heavy Equipment etc.
The usual Don’t Walk/ Don’t Run,/ No Fun etc.

Hell I could right the pamplet with a simple 1-2-3 format.:
1. Wear.
2. Good Luck.
3. Do Not Let Condom Fall Off.
LOL

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BooHooHooMan@xespu.org - 22 February 2012: whoopsie!

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: oh just because like so many online I had a particular hate-on, I can tell you a little of the Ross Douthat history… he had a regular spot on the blog line up at the Atlantic… along with Sullification (that is of course who I had an intense dislike for, RD was just too too weird and boring). I think Sully was a tiny bit hot for his chipmunk facial cheeks… prolly not quite bear enough for Sully (WHY DO I KNOW THESE THINGS!) but enough to quote him a lot – really a lot! – and to say he recommended him for the opening at NYT op ed page.

Quadruple ugh.

IOZ, and his threrad dwellers, had roasted toasted and strung Ross out ot dry. He sure loves to lecture women, which is of course what he and Sully (and Slob and Slobette) have in common)

He is a mass of religious and sexual neuroses, as I see it.

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11. marisacat - 22 February 2012: Oh I don’t know… sounds like campaign rhetoric to me…

–HuffPost, “Santorum in ’95: ‘I Was Basically Pro-Choice All My Life, Until I Ran For Congress,'” by Jason Cherkis and Sam Stein:

“In his first run for office in 1990, his campaign put out an issue statement on abortion that, by today’s standards, would put him among the moderates of the GOP.

Abortion, he wrote, requires ‘a sensitivity to the genuine concerns of both sides.’ While ‘government must be on the side of human life’ he recognized that ‘it is very difficult to criminalize any activity once a large portion of society comes to see it as a ‘right.” …

The 1990 issue statement was sent to the Huffington Post by an operative who worked on that campaign.” http:// huff.to/zhTRWW

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12. diane - 22 February 2012: U.S. Embassy locked down amid violent protests

(CBS News) Protesters set fire to a compound that houses foreign contract workers in the Afghan capital Wednesday, one of several scenes where anger erupted into violence again following Tuesday’s admission by the U.S. military that Qurans had been burned as trash at the Bagram air base.

I believe, Who Is IOZ …. puts it into context …. the bottom line, …. really, … being a stamped seal of approval (by destroying the only symbol for a difference in culture, that outsiders relate to, ….talk about Rape), for Massive Killing Fields.

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diane - 22 February 2012: (the link works, but meant to end the link after the word: “context,” sorry)

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diane - 22 February 2012: (I posted the above at plus/minus 5:21 EST, in case anyone wonders …. (as, sometimes, “one” does ……wonder!))

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: well I realise you get a protest going when you do… but my old line is

FFS EVERYBODY knows the only legitimate authorised manner of Quran destuction is hellfire missile.

Qurans and human flesh are going up all the time.

Personally, burn all the holy instruction books is my feeling. And stop the damned wars.

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diane - 22 February 2012: well I was alluding to the concept of burning another culture’s presumed to be dangerous books, but not one’s own presumed to be dangerous books, whatever types of books they might be; and that the offense the Afghanis took was far more about that, than the burning of the Quran.

beyond that, I despise the idea of burning anyone’s books, particularly while keeping one’s own safe from harm, it certainly won’t change minds.

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diane - 22 February 2012: or prevent wars.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: honestly I think a lot of this, from angst over the depictions of Mohammed, those protests to Quran burning is paid mobs from the mosques. SO much emphasis on fucking religion or claiming the hijab as religious, etc.

I remain kind of unimpressed… End the wars, far more important. And, it is all of a whole.

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diane - 22 February 2012: well yeah, the most publicized part, …. but I still think that the crux of the matter is that an Occupying Murderous Nation (sadly ours) is Colonizing, Pontificating and now, Burning Frigging Books, and that the book burning, even amongst many who likely despise the Islamic Religion, was symbolic of a write off and droning excuse, for ALL Afghanis (whom are all considered Islamic by the vast majority of outsiders), that now their eyes open up to the fact that the UZ views their entire population as disposable, versus the UZ saving Afghanis from ‘Afghani Terrorists.’

well, maybe I’m wrong, won’t be the first time, but that was my knee jerk.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: The whole bullshit about the sacredness of religion, whcih is what the USA is pushing right along with burning the damned religious texts is what I am so sick of.

Sick to death of, from, by, with.

Any “veneration” of ”sacred” scripts other than as historical documents or art objects is just bunk. I don’t care what religion it is.

And paid mobs is just what is so common about the sectarian bullshit world we live in… from India to Pakistan to Afghanistan to to to to to to — a future that the Slobs, the SanctumSanctorums, the GIngrichs and all similarly inclined WANT for the US to become.

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13. BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: Snack food loaded in?
GOP Debate tonight.
Last before Super Tuesday.
Limited commercial interruptions.
A toll-free Gingrich Camp request line for small amounts of Sheldon Adelson’s money?
Anyone? Anyone? No?
Santorum vs. Satan and all comers? LOL

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BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: (((Don’t worry! I won’t be droning on about it ))) 😆
I hope they all paste Romney tho. LOL.
Let’s take this insanity to a new level and all that..

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: Shouldn’t Santorum and Gingirch be required to have God Jesus and whomever else (Mary obviously being of no value) visible on the stge?

I mean, COME ON!!

Oh! OH! And Satan too. Fersure.

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BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: Mary obviously being of no value

David Gergen afterwards :”Sounded like 4 white guys lecturing women”

About it.
It was awful (NN/nnnnn)
Early on Romney started to slober all over the Catholic Church..
Gingrich had this silk purple tie on, had some Geisha thing goin on too with his lipstick and powder , really freaky when he’d purse his lips and start bossiing the others around. LOL..

Santorum just oatyoat-deedoated right into Romney then Paul then Romney just working his dumbfuck face over with tire irons..
Oh now I remember ~ 💡 😆 there was this fun moment – this whole exchange over – wait for it – ARLEN SPECTER. 😆 Romney hung Arlen around Santorum’s neck ( Unclean! Leper!) it was REALLY fun to watch – I must say as an ex Pennsylvanian – to watch Santorum get done-in by Romney invoking Specter’s name, lighting it up like a gelignite turd and throwing it in Santorhea’s face. Talk about a two-fer, had me warmin’ to Mitt there for a moment. Santorum porky pigged thru an explanation and got booed by the live audience.

Optics.
They sat at desks, great for Newtwhale, home for Romney, decent for Paul de-emphasizing height differences. Plain old stupid for Santo, if his camp had any input on the format. If the had any input they literally gave up standing center stage to look like he was the student council representative at the school board .
All 3 except Paul for war in Syria. Romney gleeful about the prospect. We should celebrate it or some such.

Then of course , Iran.
Asked about JCOS’ Dempsey’s recent statements about NOT attacking, all 3, except for Paul, they all went JooCoo and swore blind allegiance to Israel and war with Iran.

blind allegiance to Israel and war with Iran. Sick Sick Sickening.
Paul spoke last on the topic, and frankly is a must see.
I thought so anyways.

Tonite should have Romney putting distance between himself and Santo as if any of it matters. Surrounded by RW war pigs Obama and his minders no different. All the same people.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: They should be forced to wear yarmulkes… and have very small boys hanging off the all too Catholic appendage. WIth signs that they ahve on secret, AND Magickal!, Mormon underwear.

I mean let’s get real on what religion is.

Love the Gergen line… he may be a pissant but he is not elementally dumb.

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BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: Well the Catholics will hold up their end of the deal.

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BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: it should read . – they all went JooCoo and swore blind allegiance to Israel and war with Iran.

I am so sick of that shit.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: Something speshul for Ron Paul too. probably something about how he wants to run womens lives, being a doctor he is, in fact, GAWD…. and that deep down, he will do everything he can to get the MittensMannequin elected.

Etc.

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BooHooHooMan - 22 February 2012: Oh he skated throughout. Some shite about “eliminating the causes of the immorality but the pill doesn’t cause it” , he’s ” in favor of the 2nd ammendment, see, and it’s like guns, GUNS, see, the pill , guns and zrrrp, see, criminals kill people which is why we need to get the government out of medicine! ”
😯 — I KNOW! – – YOU try and sort it out!
C R A Z Y.

Pretty obvious he and Mittens camp have some arrangement for the time being…And oh so obvious the whole goddam electoral politics thing is engineered for stasis.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: Oh yeah he and Mittens… no question. he feints and runs plays and defends the flanks, and reworks the moment, all for RomneyNation.
14. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 February 2012: Some things from Sully’s liveblog of tonight’s winger circle jerk:

8.03 pm. Neither of the Catholics has ash on their forehead.

9.28 pm. Ron Paul brings up Catholic just war theory, which bars pre-emptive, aggressive war and torture, both of which are backed by the two Catholics.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: ooo juicy snippets…

Thank you jesus, my parents smoked. They let us come into school 3 hours late to go to Mass for Ash Wednesday… LOL I blew it off, and used cigarette ash…

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Madman in the Marketplace - 22 February 2012: the only times my forehead got dirty was on the playground when I’d get tackled during a game or fight.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: oh I’d never have gotten away with going to the Convent without smudges.

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15. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 February 2012: Bush Appointee Finds DOMA Unconstitutional

The Court has ruled that considerations of discrimination against people based on sexual orientation should be held to heightened scrutiny for all four factors that determine such scrutiny:

HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATION: The first factor courts consider is whether the class has suffered a history of discrimination. There is no dispute in the record that lesbians and gay men have experienced a long history of discrimination.

ABILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY: Similarly, there is no dispute in the record or the law that sexual orientation has no relevance to a person’s ability to contribute to society.

IMMUTABILITY: Regardless of the evidence that a tiny percentage of gay men or lesbians may experience some flexibility along the continuum of their sexuality or the scientific consensus that sexual orientation is unchangeable, the Court finds persuasive the holding in the Ninth Circuit that sexual orientation is recognized as a defining and immutable characteristic because it is so fundamental to one’s identity.

POLITICAL POWERLESSNESS: The Court finds that the unequivocal evidence demonstrates that, although not completely politically powerless, the gay and lesbian community lacks meaningful political power… Although this factor is not an absolute prerequisite for heightened scrutiny, the Court finds the evidence and the law support the conclusion that gay men and lesbians remain a politically vulnerable minority.

The Court rebuked Congress for BLAG’s argument that caution should be taken with issues that can be socially divisive:

Here, too, this Court finds that Congress cannot, like an ostrich, merely bury its head in the sand and wait for danger to pass, especially at the risk of permitting continued constitutional injury upon legally married couples. The fact that the issue is socially divisive does nothing to relieve the judiciary of its obligation to examine the constitutionality of the discriminating classifications in the law.

I’ll take the few little glimmers of decency that float to the surface of this benighted country.

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: Oh what will Slob doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?

He needs “God in the mix”.

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16. diane - 22 February 2012: No doubt, we’ll be seeing this sell out soon (despite the jus folks prez, singin the blooz, cause he cares, with Mick and sideshow BB, sideshow):

Some Greeks Might Have to Pay for Their Jobs

Alexander Abad-Santos Feb 22, 2012

It’s being called the “negative salary”: Due to austerity measures in Greece, it’s being reported that up to 64,000 Greeks will go without pay this month, and some will have to pay for having a job. Numbers in austerity reports have usually reflected figures in the millions, since they reflect industry-wide cuts (i.e. a 537-million euro cut to health and pension funds). And plans of cutting minimum wage by up to 32% is all but a given in the country. Today’s “negative salary” deal—which could have government employees returning funds— reveals the real human impact of the austerity measures

As Zero Hedge and the Press Project report:

Salary cutbacks (called “unified payroll”) for contract workers at the public sector set to be finalized today. Cuts to be valid retroactively since november 2011. Expected result: Up to 64.000 people will work without salary this month, or even be asked to return money. Amongst them 21.000 teachers, 13.000 municipal employees and 30.000 civil servants.

Meanwhile, a tad north of Greece, David Cameron’s … ideology of workfare

(bolding mine, hat tip to Zorba and sj)

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marisacat - 22 February 2012: Cuts to be valid retroactively since november 2011. Expected result: Up to 64.000 people will work without salary this month, or even be asked to return money. Amongst them 21.000 teachers, 13.000 municipal employees and 30.000 civil servants.

Well Greece has known this was coming. I xpect the place to explode.

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17. marisacat - 23 February 2012: New

LINK

……….. 🙄

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